Sartxac Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartxac Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 This is part of my army, in my country have the ancient bases aren't a problem. My vampire lord in zombie dragon is a simple "conversion" with aelve dragonlord. Also, i have other coloured miniatures (as Bloodseker palanquin or mortis engine) and standard vhordrai, Neferata, Arkhan, etc without paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Deadkitten said: Allegiance: Legion of Blood Allegiance: Legion of Night... humming Judas Priest - Between the Hammer and the Anvil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOSNewbie Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) Question: I realise that Prince Vhordrai does not have the keyword Vampire Lord (and FAQ side did not state anything). So am i correct to assume that the Legion of Blood "Favoured Retainers" does not apply to him? There are no changes to his keywords anywhere right? *Edited. I got the answers. Thanks Edited February 23, 2019 by AOSNewbie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadkitten Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 So this happened this weekend. Dragon took out those Blood Knights but then got charged by another 5, the VLoZD, & 2 Vamp Lords. Popped the Orb of Enchantment and then proceeded to kill the Dragon. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartxac Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) Tomorrow i have a 2000 points battle versus a opponent with the new skaven batteltome (i don't know his list). I think that is better use 5 blood knights or change theirs for Covern Throne. What do you think? I will use my last list: I think that the covern throne is better because of the hypnotism versius one army with a poor bravery. Edited March 7, 2019 by Sartxac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 50 minutes ago, Sartxac said: versius one army with a poor bravery. But they have high magic available... might get unbinded. And they have potentially devastating firepower, which you might want to engage ASAP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franek Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Hey guys, I was thinking about the best way to play Vampire Lord on ZD. Two most interesting combos I thought about are: Legion of Blood (+1 attack), Blade of Endings (+2 to Damage on a hit rolls of 6+), Walking Death (Legion of Blood battle trait). The Second option is the same but with Ghyrstrike (+1 to hit and to wound). Do you guys have an idea which one is stronger? Maybe you have a anorher idea ot some extra combo on top of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWilddog Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, Franek said: Hey guys, I was thinking about the best way to play Vampire Lord on ZD. Two most interesting combos I thought about are: Legion of Blood (+1 attack), Blade of Endings (+2 to Damage on a hit rolls of 6+), Walking Death (Legion of Blood battle trait). The Second option is the same but with Ghyrstrike (+1 to hit and to wound). Do you guys have an idea which one is stronger? Maybe you have a anorher idea ot some extra combo on top of that? The way the VLoZD sees most play is alongside Prince Vhordrai or another VLoZD in a "double dragon" formation. The most used kit out is the minus one to hit Legion Of Blood command trait plus the Ethereal Amulet to give him a +3 unrendable save (that can re-role 1's if you get Mystic Shield off). This makes him pretty tough to deal with outside of mortal wounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franek Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Looks very interesting. I kinda took my Ethereal of NH for granted xD. My focus was to make a VLoZM deal as many wounds as possible kinda forgetting that he’s pretty easy to get killed this way. Another interesting way is to have him in Death allegiance army with Red Fury and Ring of Immortality. This way he’s able to pile in twice and possibly can resurrect, only down side is that’s not reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartxac Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Franek said: Looks very interesting. I kinda took my Ethereal of NH for granted xD. My focus was to make a VLoZM deal as many wounds as possible kinda forgetting that he’s pretty easy to get killed this way. Another interesting way is to have him in Death allegiance army with Red Fury and Ring of Immortality. This way he’s able to pile in twice and possibly can resurrect, only down side is that’s not reliable. With prince Vhoradrai, your VLoZD can pile and attack in the hero phase. Very aggressive. For other band, finally i do a 1500 points battle vs Skaventide (clan pestilens): Allegiance: Legion of NightLeadersVampire Lord on Zombie Dragon (440)- General- Deathlance & Shield & Chalice- Trait: Swift Form - Artefact: Ethereal Amulet - Lore of the Vampires: Vile TransferenceNecromancer (110)- Lore of the Deathmages: Overwhelming DreadVampire Lord (140)- Mount: Flying Horror- Lore of the Vampires: Amaranthine OrbBattleline40 x Skeleton Warriors (280)- Ancient Spears5 x Dire Wolves (60)Units5 x Black Knights (120)5 x Black Knights (120)2 x Morghast Harbingers (220)- Spirit HalberdsTotal: 1490 / 2000Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 106 VS: Allegiance: SkaventideLeadersVerminlord Corruptor (260)- Artefact: Blade of Corruption Plague Priest on Plague Furnace (180)- General- Trait: Master of Rot and Ruin Plague Priest on Plague Furnace (180)BattlelineUnits40 x Plague Monks (240)- Foetid Blades40 x Plague Monks (240)- Foetid Blades1 x Warpfire Thrower (70)1 x Warpfire Thrower (70)BehemothsHell Pit Abomination (220)Total: 1460 / 2000Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 136 He destroyed my entire army, i only kill his warpfire throwers. The part consisted in control with units 3 objectives in the center of the table separated 18" among them. Edited March 8, 2019 by Sartxac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, Sartxac said: He destroyed my entire army How come?! Doesn’t look nice, but tabled with only two glasscannons killed.... condolences 🥳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartxac Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Honk said: How come?! Doesn’t look nice, but tabled with only two glasscannons killed.... condolences 🥳 ¿What programme similar to paint use the people for explain the summary of the battles? In order to show my ridicolous battle jeje. Edited March 8, 2019 by Sartxac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadkitten Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 10 hours ago, Franek said: Hey guys, I was thinking about the best way to play Vampire Lord on ZD. Two most interesting combos I thought about are: Legion of Blood (+1 attack), Blade of Endings (+2 to Damage on a hit rolls of 6+), Walking Death (Legion of Blood battle trait). The Second option is the same but with Ghyrstrike (+1 to hit and to wound). Do you guys have an idea which one is stronger? Maybe you have a anorher idea ot some extra combo on top of that? I run mine with Sanguine Blur for the +2 M, Pinions and the Orb of Enchantment. Basically looking to take out a key piece. I've found the Orb to be a hard counter vs some problematic stuff. Blood Knights aren't exactly top tier so I like having an ace up my sleeve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Sartxac said: programme similar to paint You could try „gimp“ if you feel like it, else a good old power point presentation of your failures sounds also promising 😂👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartxac Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Honk said: You could try „gimp“ if you feel like it, else a good old power point presentation of your failures sounds also promising 😂👍 ¿With gim i can do similar presentations as ? Look her battle presentation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutter Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sartxac said: With gim i can do similar presentations as With Gimp you could do that, but it would be a lot of work. What was used in the thread you qoted is Battle Chronicler: http://battlechronicler.com/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpaceman Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Been working on my Legion on Blood army for several months now and I'm close to having these lists built, I'm not going for the most competitive or optimal list, I just wanted to use my favourite model, Neferata, and still be able to bring the fight. Because little pieces of plastic can be expensive I have built 2 variants of the list to help keep things interesting while only needing to swap out a few models. The "Fear the fangs" list takes advantage of the armies natural bravery debuffs without living and dying by the sword. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadkitten Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 So I think LoB is pretty well positioned against FEC. Granted I'm relying on the Orb of Enchantment to counter the Gristleghiest GKoTG but it is a decent answer. Then, Blood Knights have the damage output to drop big fatties. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Deadkitten said: Thoughts Throne can also try their luck with „beguile“, but that king is just brutal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartxac Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) On 3/9/2019 at 1:45 PM, Mutter said: With Gimp you could do that, but it would be a lot of work. What was used in the thread you qoted is Battle Chronicler: http://battlechronicler.com/ Sorry, I tried to use this program what i don't know how charge the army in the map 😫. For other band, i'm in a league of 2 battles of 1500p and 3 battles of 2000p. I play with legions and i can use anywhere of the 3 and grand host of nagash legions. I will inform you about my lists. Any idea of the use of covern throne or vargheists in a competitive list of 1500p? Edited March 17, 2019 by Sartxac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Sartxac said: Any idea of the use of covern throne or vargheists in a competitive list of 1500p Throne(vt), VloZd(ap), necro(od), vl(ao), 40 skellis and 20 dogs (Split in 2-3 units) and the shackles (1490) bedsheets might be more competitive, but I have personal issues with them. Next idea a bit of all Throne, Necro, Banshee, 3x5 wolves, 5bloodknights, 5 blackknights, 6vargheist, mortis (1490) necro/blackknights/banshee/mortis will go the bravery debuff scream (-3 for spell, knights, legion), the other half will hammer away at things, the vamps with extra attacks, the vargheist as glass cannons, both buffed by the ca of the throne. Charge blocked by wolves... If that is really something to consider competitively against sacrament or host cheesemongers... one can only try 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartxac Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Honk said: Throne(vt), VloZd(ap), necro(od), vl(ao), 40 skellis and 20 dogs (Split in 2-3 units) and the shackles (1490) bedsheets might be more competitive, but I have personal issues with them. Next idea a bit of all Throne, Necro, Banshee, 3x5 wolves, 5bloodknights, 5 blackknights, 6vargheist, mortis (1490) necro/blackknights/banshee/mortis will go the bravery debuff scream (-3 for spell, knights, legion), the other half will hammer away at things, the vamps with extra attacks, the vargheist as glass cannons, both buffed by the ca of the throne. Charge blocked by wolves... If that is really something to consider competitively against sacrament or host cheesemongers... one can only try Oh... Can I use the ca of the covern throne for re-roll hit rolls of the Vargheist? I think that only can repeat one dice. I don't have the banshee and only have 3 Vargheists and 10 dogs, this week we will be buy 10 more. Edited March 17, 2019 by Sartxac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Sartxac said: I think that only can repeat one dice. Yes, there is the Scrying Pool ability: once per game you can re-roll one single dice for this model (that in itself can save your behind in a tight spot) but there is the official CA Tactical Insight: pick a friendly death unit within 12“ and re-roll hit/wound/save rolls of 1 till your next herophase. it is cp intensive in comparison to Mannfreds CA but also covers saves of 1 A bunch of Bloodknights or vargheist rerolling hits/wounds of 1... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartxac Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Honk said: Yes, there is the Scrying Pool ability: once per game you can re-roll one single dice for this model (that in itself can save your behind in a tight spot) but there is the official CA Tactical Insight: pick a friendly death unit within 12“ and re-roll hit/wound/save rolls of 1 till your next herophase. it is cp intensive in comparison to Mannfreds CA but also covers saves of 1 A bunch of Bloodknights or vargheist rerolling hits/wounds of 1... But, today i read in Tactical Insight: The legendary scrying talents of some vampires, aided by their vantage point above the battlefield, allow them to assess, disrupt and take advantage of enemy plans. If a Vampire Queen atop a Coven Throne uses this ability, and the dice rolled at the start of the next battle round is a tie, you can decide who will take the first turn of that battle round. And in the faqs i don't read this modification to repeat rolls of 1 in hit/wound/save. Edited March 18, 2019 by Sartxac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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