Fantasy4Life Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Tizi I have been theorizing the same thing, however allarielle isn’t much more after you figure in your free 200 pts. I haven’t tested it but am assuming she’s the better buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popisdead Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 22 hours ago, IndigoGirls said: Harvestboon boost to charge rolls is super nice when coupled with the cogs and warsinger. That gives you a 5" from 9" away, which is so sweet, also snake eyes are no longer a threat! Also, I personally prefer to boost spell casting (+1 for harvestboon wraiths) to having the ability to cast more spells (gnarlroot). It means that you'll more reliably get your casts off and have to worry less about denial. From the few games of 2.0 that I've played so many spells have been shutdown by denies that otherwise would have succeeded with any boost. I stepped away from the Harvestboon list because I really didn't want to run a horde of Dryads, otherwise it seems like a pretty sweet battalion. I own 30 painted from when I started the army in 2005 (as an autumn theme), and another 40 I'm painting up now (as summer). So the horde isn't a problem for me. Initially my focus was on 6 Hunters and 3 x 10 Dryads. Then use the summoning to bring in more dryads. I think with the Balewind, you could get good boosts. However I do want to try two hordes of 30. Last edition I played a lot of 10 man MSU Winterleaf. I found them easy to get into woods, then backed with a Treeman stomp they were hard to hit and denied my Maggotkin opponent his bonus attacks. What I am looking at trying now is 30 Tree Revenants in either Treelord (Oakenbrow?) or Ironwood. I did some quick loose dmg output and found them not dissimilar to Hunters with swords (granted no where near the tankiness). Mostly this idea came from facing a 30-man Thrall unit that performed well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aezeal Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 14 hours ago, Atreyu said: Had my second 1000P game yesterday against Nighthaunt and got tabled. I have no idea what i can do against Lady Olynder, all the mortal wounds in general... I'd say... MW her back with gnarlroot? I also say she's... pretty low on points for her abilities... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrst77 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Hey everyone, I've been going over the new sylvaneth point costs and the battletome and came up with a list for gnarlroot without allarielle. I definitely think that ghyrstrike is going to make durthu a beast in combat. I also think that the lamentiri will help the branchwraith get the dryad factory going. Treelord ancient - oaken armor - gnarled warrior - regrowth 300pts Spirit of durthu - ghyrstrike 380pts Branchwych - dwellers below 80pts Branchwraith - ranu's lamentiri - verdant blessing 80pts Battleline: 20 dryads 200pts 20 dryads 200pts 5 tree revenants 80pts Other: 3 kurnoth hunters - scythes 200pts 3 kurnoth hunters - bows 200pts Battalions: Household 100pts Gnarlroot wargrove 130pts Endless spells: Malevolent maelstrom 20pts Soulsnare shackles 20pts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppetford Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 @Thrst77 I like the list. I agree that Durthu and that artefact is going to be devastating! It seems to find it’s way into every list I write at the moment. How do you see yourself using the Malevolent Maelstrom? I really like the rules, just worry that casting in a Gnarlroot list will hamper my spells as much as the enemy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrst77 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 @ppetford I'm not totally convinced on the maelstrom. I might play a few games with it and try it out. Otherwise I'll run some other 20pt spell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalassic Monstrosity Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Are Nighthaunt really so bad for Sylvaneth? I know Sylvaneth don't really have much save-after-the-save mechanics but they don't do THAT many Mortal Wounds, do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoGirls Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Thrst77 said: @ppetford I'm not totally convinced on the maelstrom. I might play a few games with it and try it out. Otherwise I'll run some other 20pt spell You could use Quicksilver Swords instead or drop Shackles and other spell for Pendulum/other 40pt options. I'm also not very sold on maelstrom. Initially I thought it was going to be sweet but the more I think about it the less I like it. 12 hours ago, Tizianolol said: Guys I'm reading many post about allarielle .. What about "old" gnarloot with TLA and durthu! It seems better in aos2 cause point drop, durthu is a very good hammer, and TLA is immortal with command trait and correct artifact. You got magic power and with bwr you can free summon 10 dryads. And it's one drop! Imo too important for sylvaneth for wildwood placement!! I think you're seeing so much Alarielle now because she is very efficient and flexible and people want to bust out Sylvaneth's most bad-ass model! 17 hours ago, Atreyu said: Had my second 1000P game yesterday against Nighthaunt and got tabled. I have no idea what i can do against Lady Olynder, all the mortal wounds in general... I played against a Lady Olynder and didn't have too much trouble with her at 1k points. I just made sure to keep her at a distant and kill her with range/magic. My opponent didn't roll well on Grave-sands of Time and she went down the following turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ching Wing Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 5 hours ago, Thrst77 said: Hey everyone, I've been going over the new sylvaneth point costs and the battletome and came up with a list for gnarlroot without allarielle. I definitely think that ghyrstrike is going to make durthu a beast in combat. I also think that the lamentiri will help the branchwraith get the dryad factory going. Treelord ancient - oaken armor - gnarled warrior - regrowth 300pts Spirit of durthu - ghyrstrike 380pts Branchwych - dwellers below 80pts Branchwraith - ranu's lamentiri - verdant blessing 80pts Battleline: 20 dryads 200pts 20 dryads 200pts 5 tree revenants 80pts Other: 3 kurnoth hunters - scythes 200pts 3 kurnoth hunters - bows 200pts Battalions: Household 100pts Gnarlroot wargrove 130pts Endless spells: Malevolent maelstrom 20pts Soulsnare shackles 20pts I made a list pretty similar to that bc durthu is sweet and scary especially with that artifact. But I don’t see a reason why alarielle shouldn’t be in every single list right now, she is much better than durthu in the new meta, she packs a bigger punch, heals the whole army and give you 3 extra spells which is so key in aos2 also I recommend taking spells from shyish, definitely the best buffs for alarielle in there, or durthu. They are both weak to mortal wounds and there is an immune to all spells buff in there. Try it with both hero’s though and you decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ching Wing Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 At the very least you should put drycha in there bc you have no way to dish out mortal wounds. Especially since she just got buffed 280 is a steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrst77 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 So the branchwraith summons dryads and they cannot move. Can they teleport into another wyldwood because it is done instead of moving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ching Wing Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 29 minutes ago, Thrst77 said: So the branchwraith summons dryads and they cannot move. Can they teleport into another wyldwood because it is done instead of moving? That would be sweeeeeeeeet!! But no you can’t haha, the teleport is instead of moving normally that phase, but since you’re not even allowed to move normally that phase you won’t be allowed to teleport either. Would be sick tho! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ching Wing Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Teleport does count as a movement which is why the wording for a roll of 6+ says you can “move again”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoGirls Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 10 hours ago, Ching Wing said: I made a list pretty similar to that bc durthu is sweet and scary especially with that artifact. But I don’t see a reason why alarielle shouldn’t be in every single list right now, she is much better than durthu in the new meta, she packs a bigger punch, heals the whole army and give you 3 extra spells which is so key in aos2 also I recommend taking spells from shyish, definitely the best buffs for alarielle in there, or durthu. They are both weak to mortal wounds and there is an immune to all spells buff in there. Try it with both hero’s though and you decide. Just want to clarify, you cannot pick spells from a realm for your casters. Access to realm spells is 100% dependent on what realm you're playing in. Therefore, in order to access the shyish spells your game would need to take place in shyish. The realm you play in will either be randomly rolled or agreed upon by both players, there is no cherry picking your favorite realm spells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a74xhx Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 20 hours ago, Ching Wing said: At the very least you should put drycha in there bc you have no way to dish out mortal wounds. Especially since she just got buffed 280 is a steal. But would you take Drycha over 3 Kurnoths and an order wizard? 2000: Alarielle (600), Branchwraith (80), Branchwych (80), 20 Dryads (200), Drycha Hamadreth (280), Treelord Ancient (300), 2x5 Tree-Revenants (160), Gnarlroot+Household (230), endless spells (70) 2000: Alarielle (600), Branchwraith (80), Branchwych (80), 20 Dryads (200), 3 Kurnoth Hunters (200), Treelord Ancient (300), 2x5 Tree-Revenants (160), Battlemage (120), Gnarlroot+Household (230), endless spells (30) (Or replace Battlemage for Archmage (100) and more endless spell fun) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ching Wing Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 3 hours ago, a74xhx said: But would you take Drycha over 3 Kurnoths and an order wizard? 2000: Alarielle (600), Branchwraith (80), Branchwych (80), 20 Dryads (200), Drycha Hamadreth (280), Treelord Ancient (300), 2x5 Tree-Revenants (160), Gnarlroot+Household (230), endless spells (70) 2000: Alarielle (600), Branchwraith (80), Branchwych (80), 20 Dryads (200), 3 Kurnoth Hunters (200), Treelord Ancient (300), 2x5 Tree-Revenants (160), Battlemage (120), Gnarlroot+Household (230), endless spells (30) (Or replace Battlemage for Archmage (100) and more endless spell fun) For drycha I was recommending her if you take durthu instead of alarielle in the list that was you have horde killer and ways to dish out mortal wounds. Honestly i like both of your lists a lot and your second list is the one I’m taking to a tournament this weekend, except I traded arch mage for a second branchwraith and unit of 30 dryads instead of 20. You should try both lists tho they look fun. I think summon bow hunters turn one is best option with exceptions to who your playing against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteBear Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) hi guy's i'm newb sylvaneth army i heard that Lord Kroak is Best Wizard my list Allegiance: SylvanethMortal Realm: AqshyLeadersLord Kroak (450)Branchwraith (80)- Artefact: Ranu's Lamentiri - Deepwood Spell: RegrowthTreelord Ancient (300)- General- Trait: Gnarled Warrior - Artefact: The Oaken Armour - Deepwood Spell: RegrowthBranchwych (80)- Artefact: Acorn of the Ages - Deepwood Spell: Verdant BlessingBattleline5 x Spite-Revenants (70)5 x Tree-Revenants (80)5 x Tree-Revenants (80)Units3 x Kurnoth Hunters (200)- Scythes3 x Kurnoth Hunters (200)- ScythesWar MachinesCelestar Ballista (100)Celestar Ballista (100)BattalionsGnarlroot Wargrove (130)Household (100)Endless SpellsSoulsnare Shackles (20)Total: 1990 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 200 / 400Wounds: 91 What do you think that list? Edited July 12, 2018 by WhiteBear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a74xhx Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 20 hours ago, Ching Wing said: For drycha I was recommending her if you take durthu instead of alarielle in the list that was you have horde killer and ways to dish out mortal wounds. Honestly i like both of your lists a lot and your second list is the one I’m taking to a tournament this weekend, except I traded arch mage for a second branchwraith and unit of 30 dryads instead of 20. You should try both lists tho they look fun. I think summon bow hunters turn one is best option with exceptions to who your playing against. That sounds like a lot of dryads! I considered 30, but with 1 branchwraith decided 20 would be enough. Is it possible to summon an understrength unit? Like if I have only 5 dryads on the sidelines mid game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aezeal Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) Allegiance: Sylvaneth - Mortal Realm: Ghyran LEADERS Alarielle the Everqueen (600) - Deepwood Spell : Regrowth Treelord Ancient (300) - Artefact : The Oaken Armour - Deepwood Spell : Regrowth Branchwych (80) - Artefact : The Silverwood Circlet - Deepwood Spell : The Reaping Branchwraith (80) - Artefact : Ranu's Lamentiri - Deepwood Spell : Verdant Blessing UNITS 5 x Tree-Revenants (80) 20 x Dryads (200) 3 x Kurnoth Hunters (200) -Scythes/Swords 10 x Dryads (100) BATTALIONS Household (100) Gnarlroot Wargrove (130) ENDLESS SPELLS Balewind Vortex (40) Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (40) Aethervoid Pendulum (40) TOTAL: 1990/2000 EXTRA COMMAND POINTS: 2 WOUNDS: 88 LEADERS: 4/6 BATTLELINES: 3 (3+) BEHEMOTHS: 2/4 ARTILLERY: 0/4 ARTEFACTS: 3/3 ALLIES: 0/400 So I think I'll take this my next game. Endless spells and artefacts are up for debate... anyone see any improvements in that department? Edited July 12, 2018 by Aezeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulksmash Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I'm a little sad that if you run Kurnoths already then the Durthu is completely outclassed by Alarielle. It's even more true if you're going to be playing on realms where she gets extra spells. Oh well, time to get an Alarielle for them. That was the one model I didn't get during the last release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ching Wing Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, Hulksmash said: I'm a little sad that if you run Kurnoths already then the Durthu is completely outclassed by Alarielle. It's even more true if you're going to be playing on realms where she gets extra spells. Oh well, time to get an Alarielle for them. That was the one model I didn't get during the last release. You can still run him but you still definitely gotta take alarielle as well haha which would mean giving up battalions for points . If you want the battalions then no durthu I think. alarielle is beast mode tho so you won’t regret having her 3 hours ago, Aezeal said: So I think I'll take this my next game. Endless spells and artefacts are up for debate... anyone see any improvements in that department? I honestly wouldn’t take so many endless spells they can back fire on you as well as get dispelled pretty easily since dispel range got buffed so much. I might consider taking one of the three you have there and taking that unit of 20 dryads to 30 that would put you at 1980 you can buy a 20 point endless if you want with that and have more bodies on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulksmash Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 This is what I'm thinking. It used to have Durthu and another unit of Kurnoth but this seems overall better now. The 10-man Revenants are the household ones. Allegiance: SylvanethMortal Realm: HyshLeadersAlarielle the Everqueen (600)- Deepwood Spell: Throne of VinesBranchwych (80)- Artefact: Lens of Refraction - Deepwood Spell: Verdant BlessingBranchwraith (80)- Artefact: Ranu's Lamentiri - Deepwood Spell: RegrowthTreelord Ancient (300)- General- Trait: Gnarled Warrior - Artefact: The Oaken Armour - Deepwood Spell: The Dwellers BelowBattleline30 x Dryads (270)10 x Tree-Revenants (160)5 x Tree-Revenants (80)Units3 x Kurnoth Hunters (200)- ScythesBattalionsGnarlroot Wargrove (130)Household (100)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 98 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkundo Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Hi guys, I am new here... And I am new to this game: I used to play WH Fantasy and nothing more. I am trying to test AoS and i fell in love with Sylvaneth. I really like the Gnarlroot Groove strategy, but I can' figure out how to set my army. Indeed, there are 3 settings I am thinking about: Allegiance: Sylvaneth LEADERS Treelord Ancient (300) - General- Command Trait : Gnarled Warrior - Artefact : The Oaken Armour - Deepwood Spell : Regrowth Branchwraith (80) - Artefact : Ranu's Lamentiri - Deepwood Spell : Regrowth Branchwych (80) - Artefact : The Silverwood Circlet - Deepwood Spell : Throne of Vines Alarielle the Everqueen (600) - Deepwood Spell : Regrowth UNITS 3 x Kurnoth Hunters (200)-Greatbows 3 x Kurnoth Hunters (200)-Greatbows 10 x Dryads (100) 10 x Dryads (100) 5 x Tree-Revenants (80) BATTALIONS Gnarlroot Wargrove (130) Household (100) 2000/2000 ********** Allegiance: Sylvaneth LEADERS Spirit of Durthu (380) - General - Command Trait : Gnarled Warrior - Artefact : Ghyrstrike Treelord Ancient (300) Artefact : The Oaken Armour - Deepwood Spell : Regrowth Branchwraith (80) - Artefact : Ranu's Lamentiri - Deepwood Spell : Regrowth Branchwych (80) - Deepwood Spell : Throne of Vines UNITS 3 x Kurnoth Hunters (200)-Greatbows 3 x Kurnoth Hunters (200)-Greatbows 3 x Kurnoth Hunters (200)-Greatbows 10 x Dryads (100) 10 x Dryads (100) 5 x Tree-Revenants (80) BATTALIONS Gnarlroot Wargrove (130) Household (100) ENDLESS SPELLS Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (40) TOTAL: 1990/2000 ********** Allegiance: Sylvaneth LEADERS Treelord Ancient (300) - General - Command Trait : Gnarled Warrior - Artefact : The Oaken Armour - Deepwood Spell : Regrowth Spirit of Durthu (380) - Artefact : Ghyrstrike Drycha Hamadreth (280) - Deepwood Spell : Regrowth Branchwych (80) - Deepwood Spell : Throne of Vines Branchwraith (80) - Artefact : Ranu's Lamentiri - Deepwood Spell : Regrowth UNITS 6 x Kurnoth Hunters (400)-Scythes 5 x Tree-Revenants (80) 5 x Tree-Revenants (80) 5 x Tree-Revenants (80) BATTALIONS Gnarlroot Wargrove (130) Household (100) 1990/2000 ********** The first setting allows me to play Alrielle and 2x3 Kurnoth (+one more I will summone with Alarielle) Here I could also run 1x6 of Kurnoth and equip them for melee. The second setting runs Durthu and 9 Kurnoth (may be 1x6 melee setted + 1x3range). Alarielle no more means 3 spells (and unbind) less eaxh turn, less heal, but I should get more melee power. Third setting runs both Durthu and Drycha as well 6x Kurnoth melee setted. I like this setting but I totly dislike 3x5 revenants. So this is where I am. Can anybody help me setting my army? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppetford Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 @Darkundo My advice, after playing Sylavaneth for over a year now, is once you have decided on a list to try - stick with it. There are so many rules, interactions and strategies you can use within Sylvaneth that you’ll need to play a few games to learn everything. Keep reading the book, after each game - re-read it. There will be rules you forget or play wrong (I still find this is true for me too) Sylvaneth is such a cool army to play. I genuinely get really excited to see it is still attracting new players. Welcome along! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twh30 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Any thoughts on this list ? More of a fluff list idea thinking that the stormcasts while cleaning stumbled across allerialle who takes them under her control, to use them to rid her of her enemies. Quote Edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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