Amradiel Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) Sounds like some people like storm, others sea : ) I have two Tidecasters and don't know if I should build sea or storm version... Edited August 10, 2018 by Amradiel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Parker Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, Amradiel said: Sounds like some people like storm, others sea : ) I have two Tidecasters and don't know if I should build sea or storm version... I’m probably going to buy a second and do it as aspect of sea. You can have a bare bones list with both but not sure how good it would be as lacks screens and numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drofnum Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 I really like them both. They just fulfill different roles really. Both can be MVP of a match pretty easily. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amradiel Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) Based on the models I own I'm tempted to try: Volturnos Aspect of the storm Tidecaster Tidecaster Soulscryer 30 Thralls 6 Ishlaen guard 6 Morrsarr guard Ends up at 1940. Going Storm over Sea because that gives me room to add an endless spell. Edited August 11, 2018 by Amradiel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gose Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Played both Sea and Storm extensively and i agree that Sea is a bit better. Currently i'm using hin in a Ionarch list with , sword of judgement , gemini, aethervoid and abissal darkenss he hangs back dishing out good damage trough spells and ranged attacks while denying a huge chunk of board to monsters and heroes. I've never been disappointed by him. I think ionarch si close to must if you want to use him at 100% On the other hand the storm, i really like him too but i think he is less consistent because to do work he must put himself in danger. My Setup for them are: Storm: General( Unstoppable Fury) and etheral amulet (fhuetan) Sea: Sword of judgement (on the stormshoal), Abyssal darkness, Gemini and Aethervoid (ionarch) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azamar Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Gose said: Sea: Sword of judgement (on the stormshoal), Abyssal darkness, Gemini and Aethervoid (ionarch) The artefact on the fishes? I guess there’s nothing to say you can’t do that, but still feels wrong to me. You should at least add a little crab waving a big sword to the base! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegioX217 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Gose said: Played both Sea and Storm extensively and i agree that Sea is a bit better. Currently i'm using hin in a Ionarch list with , sword of judgement , gemini, aethervoid and abissal darkenss he hangs back dishing out good damage trough spells and ranged attacks while denying a huge chunk of board to monsters and heroes. I've never been disappointed by him. I think ionarch si close to must if you want to use him at 100% On the other hand the storm, i really like him too but i think he is less consistent because to do work he must put himself in danger. My Setup for them are: Storm: General( Unstoppable Fury) and etheral amulet (fhuetan) Sea: Sword of judgement (on the stormshoal), Abyssal darkness, Gemini and Aethervoid (ionarch) Where do you see those items? I cant find them in the book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gose Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, LegioX217 said: Where do you see those items? I cant find them in the book those items are on the Malign sorcery book 1 hour ago, Azamar said: The artefact on the fishes? I guess there’s nothing to say you can’t do that, but still feels wrong to me. You should at least add a little crab waving a big sword to the base! Yep i think there's nothing preventing this , probably when they'll remake the ID tome stormshoal will be considered a mount so you won't be able to give them an item. Edited August 11, 2018 by Gose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drofnum Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Quote Sea: Sword of judgement (on the stormshoal), Abyssal darkness, Gemini and Aethervoid (ionarch) This is how I ran him at a recent 1500 point tourney. Rolled 6 6's against a zombie dragon which was pretty great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachmani Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 I just think AotSea is just much more flexible than the AotStorm. I might however underestimate how good 12 wounds and no stat-loss are. That's indeed super strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Parker Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Quick aside Storms ability on charge the wording seems a little open to interpretation. Does he re roll all 1s on the charge or just for the spear? There’s no full stop and then it goes to mention just the spear in regards to also plus 1 damage so not sure. With all the talk of storm vs sea I really wanted to make a list with both. At first I couldn’t find a list I liked the look of but for now have settled on. Volturnos Storm - cloud of midnight Sea - tide of fear 20 thrall 6 spear eel 3 shield eel 10 eternal guard cogs 1990 I think I may build towards this as it’s nice, no spam lots of unit variety so future proof and can be built out to other lists easily. As someone mentioned above probably run Ionrach for the boost on Sea. Cogs slowed down makes sea super tanky and a 3rd spell can also be sped up to compensate for no soulscryer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amradiel Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I'm sorry if I am asking something that might be obvious to some. But what role do Eternal guard have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Parker Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Amradiel said: I'm sorry if I am asking something that might be obvious to some. But what role do Eternal guard have? Cheap screen / objective holders. 7 points per wound / model. is way more efficient than anything in the IDK book. Also cheapest IDK selection is 100 points so can help fill points. Seems to be eternal guard which I was put into by another user here or DoK heart renders that normally get allied in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasant Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Hi! I Just bought My battletome and an eels box, but I dont Know How to Paint The fangmora skin so You know Some recipe Other Than The Warhammer TV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curzex Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, peasant said: Hi! I Just bought My battletome and an eels box, but I dont Know How to Paint The fangmora skin so You know Some recipe Other Than The Warhammer TV? Edited August 13, 2018 by Curzex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curzex Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I cant write get buggede, this is my squeme, white print, zandri dust reiklan flesh and highlights with sabti bone with zandri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 BTW list from Blackout are up and Les Martin list is very nice Dhom-Hain, Shyish Volturnos General Aspect of the Storm with Ethereal Amulet Tidecaster with Steed of Tides 2xSoulScryer 3x6 Morssar Guards And list that finished 7th Fuethan Tidecaster General Tidecaster 2xSoulScryer 3x10 Thralls 9 Morssar 9 Morssar 3 Ishalean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azamar Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 7 hours ago, DantePQ said: BTW list from Blackout are up and Les Martin list is very nice Dhom-Hain, Shyish Volturnos General Aspect of the Storm with Ethereal Amulet Tidecaster with Steed of Tides 2xSoulScryer 3x6 Morssar Guards And list that finished 7th Fuethan Tidecaster General Tidecaster 2xSoulScryer 3x10 Thralls 9 Morssar 9 Morssar 3 Ishalean I’m one model away from having a fully painted 2,000 points now, and looking at the blackout lists I’m taking almost exactly the same as one of the blackout competitors! Not either of those two though. My list is the same as the guy in 69th place ? 69 is, objectively, a better number than 6 or 7 though, so it’s still a winner in my eyes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdkingdan Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 7 hours ago, DantePQ said: BTW list from Blackout are up and Les Martin list is very nice Dhom-Hain, Shyish Volturnos General Aspect of the Storm with Ethereal Amulet Tidecaster with Steed of Tides 2xSoulScryer 3x6 Morssar Guards And list that finished 7th Fuethan Tidecaster General Tidecaster 2xSoulScryer 3x10 Thralls 9 Morssar 9 Morssar 3 Ishalean What site? Can I see this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdkingdan Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 8 hours ago, Nerdkingdan said: What site? Can I see this? I found it, didn't realize Blackout was the name of the event, new to Sigmar. Interesting stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killamike Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Aos shorts is very up to date with events and a list of army lists. He has blackout up there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amradiel Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 8:25 AM, Amradiel said: Based on the models I own I'm tempted to try: Volturnos Aspect of the storm Tidecaster Tidecaster Soulscryer 30 Thralls 6 Ishlaen guard 6 Morrsarr guard Ends up at 1940. Going Storm over Sea because that gives me room to add an endless spell. Another option might be just one Tidecaster and use Aspect of the sea. What do you guys think? Also which endless spells work well for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergi Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 5:20 PM, Amradiel said: Another option might be just one Tidecaster and use Aspect of the sea. What do you guys think? Also which endless spells work well for us? I have used Aspect if the sea in two times...I think is really good, can heal himself and eels...un combination with tidecaster, you can try to stack -1 hit to the most dangerous unit and launch ishlaen guard to tank this unit..while thralls and Morrsarr can atack with soulscryer ability.....and destroy normal enemy units... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdkingdan Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 11:20 AM, Amradiel said: Another option might be just one Tidecaster and use Aspect of the sea. What do you guys think? Also which endless spells work well for us? So looking at your army, I had some thoughts... Keep in mind I'm new to sigmar, so take it with a grain of salt. First I don't think the big unit of thralls makes much sense with the rest of the list. They can't reroll run if you bring them in the side like an eel unit with musician could, you don't have a reroll 1 with them, you can't bring any back and the large unit is more worried about battle shock, unless you do put the sea in. I have had a hard time finding a place for Morrsaar and Thralls in the same list, and. I'm also finding two to four min units of Ishlaen to be a core to just about every list I've come up with, as a way to get my other units into combat. Very little I've run into can kill through a 3 man unit with ignore rend and cover, and reroll of 1s through the shield spell. Mortal wounds and other mechanics its better to have that smaller unit than a larger one. So my suggestion is divide the Ishlean into two units, and you are done with battle line. That frees up 360 points and since you have 60 already left over giving you a total of 420 points to play with. I might try a 10 man thrall unit to hold back and deliver turn 3. I keep coming back to Sea or Turtle for more cover after turn 1, if don't have Sea I run tidecasters. If I have an Akhelian King so guard are battle line I don't do thralls. My two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Once I will get my hand on the minis I will try out this army Tidecaster General with Steed of Tides and Born from Agony Trait Soulscryer Aspect of the Storm with Ethereal Amulet 3x10 Thralls 2x6 Morssar 6 Ishalean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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