Zamik Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 12 hours ago, Karragon said: Personally I always run Hammers (nothing to do with that as a new player I painted everything in those colours, honest), even without named characters. The +1 Bravery across the board is just too good to pass up and though it doesn't happen often, the expression on your opponents face when you return the 20 sequitors they just spent 3 turns killing is priceless. The Stormcast from the 1.0 box set were the first Warhammer minis I ever painted, so I went with the hammers of Sigmar gold, and so I tend to run them that way same as you! I had the pleasure of returning a Liberators unit that had fallen against a Skaven Hell Pit Abomination! They jumped back up and killed that sucker, and it didn't come back! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Zamik said: I had the pleasure of returning a Liberators unit that had fallen against a Skaven Hell Pit Abomination! They jumped back up and killed that sucker, and it didn't come back! Haha, maximum irony. Nice one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucur Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I do run Hammers, too, and one of the things i really like is the warlord trait. I intend to run a Lord Arcanum on Dracoline with a proper Kittycator unit. That 6+ shrug is strong on all things Stormcast (who suffer from mortals). Add a castellant and cycle of the storm, it gets really annoying. That said, what mount trait to use on a Dracoline? I'm undecided, the 6" pile in allows some shenanigans when picking the order for combats. +1 to hit for claws is great and gets better with CA and empower. "Stomping" a dangerous or very large unit to lessen retaliation seems good, moreso when stacked with thundershock. What to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) On 1/3/2019 at 1:33 PM, Turragor said: Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsMortal Realm: AqshyLord-Celestant On Stardrake (560)- General- Celestine Hammer- Trait: Shielded by Faith - Artefact: Ignax's Scales - Mount Trait: Keen-clawedLord-Castellant (100)Knight-Incantor (140)- Spell: Azyrite HaloCelestant-Prime (340)5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandblades5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers2 x Fulminators (240)3 x Aetherwings (50)3 x Vanguard-Raptors with Hurricane Crossbows (140)Everblaze Comet (100)Total: 1970 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 87 Roast me - I'm mad to take this to a mini-tourney right? So the list I took was tweaked to: Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsMortal Realm: AqshyLeadersLord-Celestant On Stardrake (560)- General- Celestine Hammer- Trait: Staunch Defender - Artefact: Ignax's Scales - Mount Trait: Keen-clawedLord-Castellant (100)Knight-Incantor (140)- Spell: Azyrite HaloKnight-Heraldor (100)Celestant-Prime (340)Battleline5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandblades5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x GrandhammersUnits2 x Tempestors (220)2 x Fulminators (240)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 90 And it did great. Albeit just in a 14 person tournament. There's a lot this list can do. However I think I'll tweak it to include some skink screens and objective holders. If curious ppl should be able to check the tournament here including the lists I met: https://tabletop.to/krigsluntan-mini Edit / I note two of my opponents lists weren't uploaded to site. First opponent was: 10 bks gutrot 30 pbs Guo Rotigus Etc 3rd was: Cleansing phalanx 20 sequitors 2*5 evocators Ballista Gavriel sureheart Etc Edited January 6, 2019 by Turragor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Turragor said: So the list I took was tweaked to: Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsMortal Realm: AqshyLeadersLord-Celestant On Stardrake (560)- General- Celestine Hammer- Trait: Staunch Defender - Artefact: Ignax's Scales - Mount Trait: Keen-clawedLord-Castellant (100)Knight-Incantor (140)- Spell: Azyrite HaloKnight-Heraldor (100)Celestant-Prime (340)Battleline5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandblades5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x GrandhammersUnits2 x Tempestors (220)2 x Fulminators (240)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 90 And it did great. Albeit just in a 14 person tournament. There's a lot this list can do. However I think I'll tweak it to include some skink screens and objective holders. If curious ppl should be able to check the tournament here including the lists I met: https://tabletop.to/krigsluntan-mini Edit / I note two of my opponents lists weren't uploaded to site. First opponent was: 10 bks gutrot 30 pbs Guo Rotigus Etc 3rd was: Cleansing phalanx 20 sequitors 2*5 evocators Ballista Gavriel sureheart Etc Congrats! Oddly enough I was also at a 14 player tournament today and managed to get the win with my stardrake list. Edited January 6, 2019 by AdamR Typo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nos Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 13 hours ago, Turragor said: So the list I took was tweaked to: Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsMortal Realm: AqshyLeadersLord-Celestant On Stardrake (560)- General- Celestine Hammer- Trait: Staunch Defender - Artefact: Ignax's Scales - Mount Trait: Keen-clawedLord-Castellant (100)Knight-Incantor (140)- Spell: Azyrite HaloKnight-Heraldor (100)Celestant-Prime (340)Battleline5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandblades5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x GrandhammersUnits2 x Tempestors (220)2 x Fulminators (240)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 90 And it did great. Albeit just in a 14 person tournament. There's a lot this list can do. However I think I'll tweak it to include some skink screens and objective holders. If curious ppl should be able to check the tournament here including the lists I met: https://tabletop.to/krigsluntan-mini Edit / I note two of my opponents lists weren't uploaded to site. First opponent was: 10 bks gutrot 30 pbs Guo Rotigus Etc 3rd was: Cleansing phalanx 20 sequitors 2*5 evocators Ballista Gavriel sureheart Etc It’s certaibly a win from the perspective of someone short on painting time as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 7 hours ago, AdamR said: Congrats! Oddly enough I was also at a 14 player tournament today and managed to get the win with my stardrake list. What flavour of drake list did you opt for? 6 hours ago, Nos said: It’s certaibly a win from the perspective of someone short on painting time as well! Haha that too! Though the drake as a big big model can intimidate some I've heard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nos Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Turragor said: What flavour of drake list did you opt for? Haha that too! Though the drake as a big big model can intimidate some I've heard I came very close to buying one but was indeed intimidated by the idea of painting/transporting it. Maybe as a treat once I have everything else finished. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Turragor said: What flavour of drake list did you opt for? I took my list from last years GT final Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsMortal Realm: AqshyLeadersLord-Arcanum on Gryph-Charger (240)- General- Trait: Staunch Defender Lord-Celestant On Stardrake (560)- Celestine Hammer- Artefact: Ignax's Scales - Mount Trait: Storm-wingedLord-Castellant (100)Knight-Heraldor (100)Battleline20 x Sequitors (400)- Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields- 9x Stormsmite Greatmaces5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)- Warblade & Shield- 1x GrandbladesUnits10 x Evocators (400)- 5x Grandstaves- Lore of Invigoration: Speed of LightningTotal: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 124 Played against Seraphon, Daughters of Khaine and 20 evocator/20 sequitor Garviel bomb. Edited January 7, 2019 by AdamR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, AdamR said: I took my list from last years GT final Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsMortal Realm: AqshyLeadersLord-Arcanum on Gryph-Charger (240)- General- Trait: Staunch Defender Lord-Celestant On Stardrake (560)- Celestine Hammer- Artefact: Ignax's Scales - Mount Trait: Storm-wingedLord-Castellant (100)Knight-Heraldor (100)Battleline20 x Sequitors (400)- Stormsmite Mauls and Soulshields- 9x Stormsmite Greatmaces5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)- Warblade & Shield- 1x GrandbladesUnits10 x Evocators (400)- 5x Grandstaves- Lore of Invigoration: Speed of LightningTotal: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 124 Played against Seraphon, Daughters of Khaine and 20 evocator/20 sequitor Garviel bomb. Hm I think yours is better than mine against a broader field (and your 3 opponents had harder lists perhaps) than mine - and in more scenarios. Still, the Prime messes with ppls heads and is quite fun Model count is the weakness! Perhaps I'd drop Fulminators (who always fluff - somehow they do 3 damage with spears only EVER for me) for 20 skinks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbaron Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I’ve liked the idea of taking a small mounted unit, as the list above has done. Can I ask why people take fulminators for low model-count dracoth units, as opposed to concussors or devastators? Is it for the charge bonuses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerOfSigmar Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 desolator need to stack a big unit to get the bonus. concussors are a little bit more expensive and will be outperform when the the fulminator charge. fulminator also have a better defense against ranged weapon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THUNDERHAMMER Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I love the Castellant, probably too much.... He and the Relictor are my stars, Which would you take if you had to pick just one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzo Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, THUNDERHAMMER said: I love the Castellant, probably too much.... He and the Relictor are my stars, Which would you take if you had to pick just one? I would take Castellant. He has quite strong 100% success ability. You don't have to cast roll anything to make him useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karragon Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 8 hours ago, THUNDERHAMMER said: I love the Castellant, probably too much.... He and the Relictor are my stars, Which would you take if you had to pick just one? Opposite of the above poster, I'd take the Relictor. I find Stormcast to be a little...slow and the Translocation prayer gives me a way of mitigating that. You can also get quite a lot of milage out of Lightning Storm as well against certain armies, especially ones that haven't moved to the "unmodified 6's" wording (see BlightKings) The Castellant buff is nice but unless you're aiming for "unkillable" with for example a Stardrake or a massive Sequitor/Cleansing Phalanx list I find that the opponent being able to attack my key unit(s) with anything dangerous means I've done something wrong and they are probably dead with or without his buff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chord Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 13 hours ago, THUNDERHAMMER said: I love the Castellant, probably too much.... He and the Relictor are my stars, Which would you take if you had to pick just one? Personally I'm a fan of the relictors (had two since the beginning of AoS thanks to Ebay). They've saved the day for me many times. But that said a catellant is a great choice as well and gives you a gryph hound. Why not both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 It depends on your list. Sometimes you want a prayer, and sometimes you want a gryph-hound and/or +1 save. The Lord-Veritant gives you both a prayer and a gryph-hound, as well as an unbind (potentially at +3). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucur Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I don't think a Veritant viable in Sacrosanct lists. The guaranteed unbind on the Incantor and sheer number of wizards should suffice imo.ü Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doogain Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Are there any viable gavriel-bomb- lists at 1250 points? Or would I be better off with a cleansing phalanx list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRifter Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Hey guys, I took a 2 months break from AOS but now im back. Has anything changed for Stormcast? -Any new competetive Lists? -Rule changes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerOfSigmar Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Doogain said: Are there any viable gavriel-bomb- lists at 1250 points? Or would I be better off with a cleansing phalanx list? For gavriel bomb LAoGC 240(or the 180 on foot version, which gives you more spare points) gavriel 100 sequitor*5 120 sequitor*5 120 evocators*10 400 The list above will be the backbone of your list in my opinion. There are 270 points left. Expanding one sequitor to 10 models, bring a vexillor is some good ways to spend the rest points in my opinion. Just take care that in this list, you will probably have more drops than your opponent so keeping 50 points left for 1 extra CP to auto pass battleshock might be a good choice. For cleansing phalanx: LAoF 180 sequitor*5 120 sequitor*5 120 evocators*5 200 evocators*5 200 cleansing phalanx 120 You need at least 940 points, you still have 310 points left to use. Fewer drops, extra aretifact, extra CP. Might worth it. Actually, maybe you try to combine both: LAoF 180 sequitor*5 120 sequitor*5 120 graviel 100 evocators*5 200 evocators*5 200 cleansing phalanx 120 There are 1040 points in total. My suggestion will be bring a knight vexillor(120), a blob of 10 skinks(60) to make your whole list. Edited January 9, 2019 by HammerOfSigmar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerOfSigmar Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 hours ago, IRifter said: Hey guys, I took a 2 months break from AOS but now im back. Has anything changed for Stormcast? -Any new competetive Lists? -Rule changes? the big faq in December barely change anything, so all the tatics remain mostly unchanged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doogain Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 7 hours ago, HammerOfSigmar said: For gavriel bomb LAoGC 240(or the 180 on foot version, which gives you more spare points) gavriel 100 sequitor*5 120 sequitor*5 120 evocators*10 400 The list above will be the backbone of your list in my opinion. There are 270 points left. Expanding one sequitor to 10 models, bring a vexillor is some good ways to spend the rest points in my opinion. Just take care that in this list, you will probably have more drops than your opponent so keeping 50 points left for 1 extra CP to auto pass battleshock might be a good choice. For cleansing phalanx: LAoF 180 sequitor*5 120 sequitor*5 120 evocators*5 200 evocators*5 200 cleansing phalanx 120 You need at least 940 points, you still have 310 points left to use. Fewer drops, extra aretifact, extra CP. Might worth it. Actually, maybe you try to combine both: LAoF 180 sequitor*5 120 sequitor*5 120 graviel 100 evocators*5 200 evocators*5 200 cleansing phalanx 120 There are 1040 points in total. My suggestion will be bring a knight vexillor(120), a blob of 10 skinks(60) to make your whole list. It might just be me, but it kinda feels like the idea of a gavriel bomb is bad at 1250 points. In the list where you combine both, would you deepstrike with only Gavriel and 1 unit of evocators? Would that be able to kill anything? Your cleansing phalanx list at 940 points seems interesting tho, perhaps with a incantor and everblaze comet as well. I'll play around with that list for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Williams Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Doogain said: It might just be me, but it kinda feels like the idea of a gavriel bomb is bad at 1250 points. In the list where you combine both, would you deepstrike with only Gavriel and 1 unit of evocators? Would that be able to kill anything? Your cleansing phalanx list at 940 points seems interesting tho, perhaps with a incantor and everblaze comet as well. I'll play around with that list for sure. Yes, Gav bomb at any points value is strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerOfSigmar Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Doogain said: It might just be me, but it kinda feels like the idea of a gavriel bomb is bad at 1250 points. In the list where you combine both, would you deepstrike with only Gavriel and 1 unit of evocators? Would that be able to kill anything? Your cleansing phalanx list at 940 points seems interesting tho, perhaps with a incantor and everblaze comet as well. I'll play around with that list for sure. For gavriel bomb, I will just drop all the evocators together. Actually, for the combined list, I would like to bring the vexillor since I don't have extra CP to do reroll failed charges, it happens when you charge 6". For killing, a unit of 5 evocators can normally kill a 12 wound carnosaur in one turns. Edited January 10, 2019 by HammerOfSigmar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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