GeneralZero Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Order..check Destruction...check So, it leaves death and chaos forr the second semester. BTW, those 2 new BT sound LoN like to me for destruction and order, especially the free people one which looks like a big soup. Pretty happy to get my old (20+ years) minis out of drawers (canons, catapults orcs, pistoliers etc....and 2 tanks!!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 look like only the dark aelves are missing if the model line up means anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecktron Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Overread said: My only worry is that adding ALL teh human, dwarf and aelf models in one army might lead to some falling over each other; but then again GW might be breaking the Aelves up even more. Eg Wanderers might be in but some of the dark or light options might be splitting out other forces. Looking at the picture, I can't see Lion Rangers, Order Draconis, Order Serpentis, Scourge Privateers, Eldritch Council and Phoenix Temple (EDIT: Found the Phoenix Guard). So maybe some are left out? Edited July 20, 2019 by Gecktron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth 🍄 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Infeston said: No. No. I won't listen to you. 😛 You all hyped me up too much. I am not gonna hype myself up again. My guess is that the silhouette is just a model from the new Warcry Warbands. If GW wants to mock me, they make it a Chaos Ogor. 😄 Maybe it's an Ogor for Warhammer Underworlds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Infeston said: No. No. I won't listen to you. 😛 You all hyped me up too much. I am not gonna hype myself up again. My guess is that the silhouette is just a model from the new Warcry Warbands. If GW wants to mock me, they make it a Chaos Ogor. 😄 IF they want to mock you. Ha! GW is coming for your lunch money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtnaps Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: Old World Aelves are in. This is really looks like the Order version of Legions of Nagash, especially now they've shown the duardin and aelves are in it too and they wouldn't have Stormcast on the front cover unless they actually were apart of the book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lernaean Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, xking said: Feels kind of lazy, but I guess that's just me. It’s not lazy, it was needed. It’s just that mindset (which I also have) that no new models = no proper release. But in all honesty it had to happen at some point. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, xking said: Feels kind of lazy, but I guess that's just me. Not just you. Lets see how the rest of the day goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Well there goes my mission objective for the day - Warcry boxed set and Daughters of Khaine cards ordered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EccentricCircle Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Well, if they do roll all of the old humans, elves and dwarves into one book that would go a long way towards Order being a complete grand alliance. Just Kharadrons and Seraphon to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Misfire Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, xking said: I dislike the soup battletomes. I dislike modern AoS armies. 🤷♂️😜 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, xking said: Feels kind of lazy, but I guess that's just me. Honestly all of the lore regarding the Free Cities has been pointing to this for a long, long time. The setting was growing too large for them to really ignore what they'd established - that a lot of the Old World races inhabit these Free Cities - as well as the issue of a lot of said Old World armies needing Battletome updates to become viable in any way, shape or form. I'm usually the first person to criticise GW, but not this time. At the very least, it's a much needed stop-gap between fully fleshed out factions for each of the races. 14 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, xking said: I dislike the soup battletomes. I Love them. Playing as a city or city expedition is great 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeryenn Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, xking said: I dislike the soup battletomes. Yeah, but it was needed for all the Old World players of those armies that felt left behind. Now they can use their old models against new armies. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorticulusTGA Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Well the Cities of Sigmar is interesting but kinda not what I wanted for common, Order humans in the Mortal Realms... At least it's the SoW : Firestorm book updated (by Josh Reynolds yeah ) - I'm really eager to read it for the good fluff and world building, even if I wanted more than the adapted paint schemes (new proper AOS models like the Excelsior Warpriest from WHQ Silver Tower or AT LEAST plastic City-themed upgrade sprues)... The Orruk book was to be expected (but I would like to have the Greenskinz Boar riders in it...)... STRANGE DAY 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Clan's Cynic said: Honestly all of the lore regarding the Free Cities has been pointing to this for a long, long time. The setting was growing too large for them to really ignore what they'd established - that a lot of the Old World races inhabit these Free Cities - as well as the issue of a lot of said Old World armies needing Battletome updates to become viable in any way, shape or form. I'm usually the first person to criticise GW, but not this time. At the very least, it's a much needed stop-gap between fully fleshed out factions for each of the races. I think when people say lazy they mean that the very old Empire models are still being used. Not the concept of the battletome itself which seems pretty cool. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecktron Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, JackStreicher said: I Love them. Playing as a city or city expedition is great This! The free cities established in Firestorm have a lot of potential and mixing races in one army really sets AoS apart from the world-that-was. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, xking said: It's lazy, they could have did normal humans better than that. i think they are souping too much to be honest for that free city book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infeston Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 The thing is with all the combined army battletomes I really have to ask why did GW split these factions in the first place? Especially for Destruction it often didn't even make sense lore-wise to split factions. Because of the combination of all the Orruks back into one, I really don't understand why GW split them in the first place. A combination of all the split Ogor factions would have made more sense in my eyes, because many Ogor factions can't stand on their own, while most Orruk factions can. I have to say that I sometimes fear that GW completely forgets about Ogors and just focusses on those factions, which also work for 40k (Orks, Goblins). A combined Ogor battletome would have been really great. But I guess this will propably take some time now. I couldn't even vote for Ogors in this years GW ballot, because they forgot to include them. I really hope i get some kind of sign that GW still supports Ogors in some way. Even if it is just an Underworlds warband. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Aryann said: Yeah, but it was needed for all the Old World players of those armies that felt left behind. Now they can use their old models against new armies. Tell that to TK and Bret players Just now, Austin said: I think when people say lazy they mean that the very old Empire models are still being used. Not the concept of the battletome itself which seems pretty cool. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthlorianStoners Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, xking said: It's lazy, they could have did normal humans better than that. They very well still could, and this actually goes a long way in enabling that. This way players who have existing armies can field a viable army and GW can expand human factions whichever way they want without it conflict with Freeguild. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Aryann said: Yeah, but it was needed for all the Old World players of those armies that felt left behind. Now they can use their old models against new armies. I must have at least 4000pts of various Dwarf/Empire/Dark-Wood-High ELF models I collected over the years that I can use with this release. Much of that is just grey plastic I thought I'd never brush the dust off again. I rarely get hyped for much AoS stuff but I am over the moon with this. Edited July 20, 2019 by Clan's Cynic 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azamar Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, novakai said: look like only the dark aelves are missing if the model line up means anything There’s a black guard on the lower row (banner 2nd from left) so at least some darklings hopefully are in. Edited July 20, 2019 by Azamar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecktron Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Just now, Infeston said: The thing is with all the combined army battletomes I really have to ask why did GW split these factions in the first place? Especially for Destruction it often didn't even make sense lore-wise to split factions. Because they allow for great thematic additions. Flesh-Eaters, Beastclaw Raiders or Daughters of Khaine were fantastic additions to the lore. Splitting them off allowed GW to explore that space. Its just that they bitt of more than they can chew. So now they are kinda re-combining them (but leaving them separated enough to come back to them later) to get players happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Free Cities makes sense, the lore already had lots of cities with men, aelves and dwarves in them so using it as a catch all tome works within the game. It also leaves GW fully open to adding a totally new Human faction at a latter date if they so wish. As well as dwarves and aelves. Also lets face it; cleaning up the listings into fewer whole armies makes sense for GW in keeping AoS tight in terms of armies. At launch AoS had an insane number of sub-armies that never could have been supported. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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