El Antiguo Guardián Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I have most of the WH40K armies, most of the AoS armies as well (but I´m mounting and painting them) and all the WHFB ones (and some extra like Fimirs and Nippon), but vampires are my favourite ones, ever, all games and sistems. So this is AMAZING. I was preparing myself for a new undead army so it´s time for start painting and mounting them for the new battletome. I´m very very excited. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sance Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 34 minutes ago, Nostrammo said: So as far as units are concerned I think we will get these pretty little things back Vargheists I think vargheists needs a redesign, they looks too much like the crypt flayers (i know it's the same kit and vargheist was before FEC existed as an army). Gimme stone-living gargoyle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 31 minutes ago, LuminethMage said: Yup, and likely some of those who call this ridiculous, probably found the Slaanesh ones great, which have a very similar body shape, and probably will have very similar poses for both mount and rider. The kangaroo thing is fun for memes, but they obviously not jumping. [PIC] I actually think the resemblance between the two is not random: there's a lot of similarities between LRL and mortal slaanesh going on 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sance said: I think vargheists needs a redesign, they looks too much like the crypt flayers (i know it's the same kit and vargheist was before FEC existed as an army). Gimme stone-living gargoyle I'd say there is a chance for gargoyles to replace some of the old bat themed models: Another thing that's pretty crazy: The new leaked Vampire lord does not seem to solve any rumour engines. Really makes you wonder what else could be in store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminethMage Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Marcvs said: I actually think the resemblance between the two is not random: there's a lot of similarities between LRL and mortal slaanesh going on Definitely. The armor/clothing is also pretty similar in some places (gems, shoulders for example) then we have the Cathallar and the Shardspeaker having similar magic (at least it looks like that) etc. Seems to be on purpose. Not sure if Slaanesh is influencing the elves, or eating all the elf souls is influencing Slaanesh : ). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, LuminethMage said: Definitely. The armor/clothing is also pretty similar in some places (gems, shoulders for example) then we have the Cathallar and the Shardspeaker having similar magic (at least it looks like that) etc. Seems to be on purpose. Not sure if Slaanesh is influencing the elves, or eating all the elf souls is influencing Slaanesh : ). I also find it really plausible that GW writers might be setting up a twist where Lumineth are secretly chaos corrupted (or at least shaped in some way by having their souls be consumed by Slaanesh for so long). There are just a lot of parallels between the two that seem to be deliberately set up. People noticed the whole cow theme and the fact that Hysh's geography looks like the chaos insignia pretty much right away. And the hints just seem to keep coming. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Syf Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 The Rumour Engine – 19th January 2021 - Warhammer Community (warhammer-community.com) More death?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAWzrd Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, LuminethMage said: Definitely. The armor/clothing is also pretty similar in some places (gems, shoulders for example) then we have the Cathallar and the Shardspeaker having similar magic (at least it looks like that) etc. Seems to be on purpose. Not sure if Slaanesh is influencing the elves, or eating all the elf souls is influencing Slaanesh : ). Does make me wonder in what direction they will take Malerion’s forces, as I always thought they would be the dark mirror to the Lumineth considering Hysh and Ulgu’s duality. I do love how interwoven Slaanesh’s influence is though, lore-wise and aesthetically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, El Syf said: The Rumour Engine – 19th January 2021 - Warhammer Community (warhammer-community.com) More death?! The arch looks kind of gothic, so I could imagine this being a weird creature of the night. On the other hand. the grime on the bottom kind of looks like icicles. Some people were already speculating about some of the rumour engines we have seen being Ogors/Beast Claw Raiders. Could that be possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasnad Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: On the other hand. the grime on the bottom kind of looks like icicles. There is another rumor engine, that looks like it got an icicle: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sance Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I don't know why, but I imagine the foot of this creature on a viking-esque boat. Like a werecreature standing on a drakkar shipwreck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I dunno it feels like it might be too large for a Critter... maybe it is feline or hound trained to hunt them for the Keys? 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminethMage Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: I also find it really plausible that GW writers might be setting up a twist where Lumineth are secretly chaos corrupted (or at least shaped in some way by having their souls be consumed by Slaanesh for so long). There are just a lot of parallels between the two that seem to be deliberately set up. People noticed the whole cow theme and the fact that Hysh's geography looks like the chaos insignia pretty much right away. And the hints just seem to keep coming. I honestly hope that’s not the case. So far, there are other explanations for the things you describe, like Hysh simply looking like it does because the symbol of Hysh itself looks like that (and Hysh is all about symbolism, so that would make sense). The cow thing, I see more as a theme brought forward by people like Tom from Warhammer Weekly who just don’t like them, and are a bit salty about the direction GW has taken with the Lumineth. If you look at the description of the Lumineth in their Battletome and what Phil Kelly said about them in the official vids I don’t think they are corrupted in that way. That said, it’s possible that eventually they’ll take the story in that direction. After all, the Lumineth had been within Slaanesh for aeons as you say, and they could always have the Lumineth succumb to some kind of lingering corruption. It’s not like it wouldn’t make any sense at all. 6 minutes ago, NotAWzrd said: Does make me wonder in what direction they will take Malerion’s forces, as I always thought they would be the dark mirror to the Lumineth considering Hysh and Ulgu’s duality. I do love how interwoven Slaanesh’s influence is though, lore-wise and aesthetically. Right, that’s a good point! It makes the dynamic a bit different to what was going on in Fantasy. I’m also really looking forward to what they’ll do with Malerion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SorryLizard said: I hope that any new Vampire faction is not tied into subservience to Nagash. Let Death as a whole alliance become a less monolithic 'and they serve Nagash' thing and let our heroes have more personal agency. My guess is the sub-factions will have different themes to them. So we might have one which is genuinely loyal to Nagash, one which serves Neferata/Mannfred directly, one which is only loyal to itself and plots to undermine Nagash, etc. Personally I hope we see Abhorash, or at least a Blood Knight-themed sub-faction tied to him. Edited January 19, 2021 by Clan's Cynic 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragest Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, Neverchosen said: I dunno it feels like it might be too large for a Critter... maybe it is feline or hound trained to hunt them for the Keys? Oh the other worgen’s feet. Now we have both in rumour engines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Syf Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: My guess is the sub-factions will have different themes to them. So we might have one which is genuinely loyal to Nagash, one which serves Neferata/Mannfred directly, one which is only loyal to itself and plots to undermine Nagash, etc. Personally I hope we see Abhorash, or at least a Blood Knight-themed sub-faction tied to him. If Abhorash could make Blood Knights battleline even better! Although somewhat getting ahead of myself (highly doubt he is coming :() Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Can someone please hype me? I don't know how I feel about the Vampire the longer I look at it X_x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordAlpharius Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 45 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: I also find it really plausible that GW writers might be setting up a twist where Lumineth are secretly chaos corrupted (or at least shaped in some way by having their souls be consumed by Slaanesh for so long). There are just a lot of parallels between the two that seem to be deliberately set up. People noticed the whole cow theme and the fact that Hysh's geography looks like the chaos insignia pretty much right away. And the hints just seem to keep coming. We've discussed this earlier but Hysh being shaped like the symbol for the wind of light is NOT an indication of chaos corruption and people who think the alarith symbolism is evidence of chaos corruption are just lazy, so this just seems like a baseless conspiracy theory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, JackStreicher said: Can someone please hype me? I don't know how I feel about the Vampire the longer I look at it X_x Pretend he's not awkwardly Standing On Rock(tm) and imagine more definition on the hair. Boom. then he's great (imo). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAWzrd Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: My guess is the sub-factions will have different themes to them. So we might have one which is genuinely loyal to Nagash, one which serves Neferata/Mannfred directly, one which is only loyal to itself and plots to undermine Nagash, etc. Personally I hope we see Abhorash, or at least a Blood Knight-themed sub-faction tied to him. Agree 100%. We need discourse within the Death grand alliance and warring vampire kingdoms certainly gives us that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, LordAlpharius said: We've discussed this earlier but Hysh being shaped like the symbol for the wind of light is NOT an indication of chaos corruption and people who think the alarith symbolism is evidence of chaos corruption are just lazy, so this just seems like a baseless conspiracy theory. I was debating with myself whether or not I should include that in my post. For now I will just say the same thing as last time about it: It's an ambiguity that could turn out to mean something, or could mean nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverstu Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: Pretend he's not awkwardly Standing On Rock(tm) and imagine more definition on the hair. Boom. then he's great (imo). and also realise its a she...[I think] 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordAlpharius Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 57 minutes ago, LuminethMage said: Definitely. The armor/clothing is also pretty similar in some places (gems, shoulders for example) then we have the Cathallar and the Shardspeaker having similar magic (at least it looks like that) etc. Seems to be on purpose. Not sure if Slaanesh is influencing the elves, or eating all the elf souls is influencing Slaanesh : ). Elves/Aelves/Eldar and Slaanesh have always shared similar aesthetic elements so I think this just the continuation of those themes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, JackStreicher said: Can someone please hype me? I don't know how I feel about the Vampire the longer I look at it X_x Imagine the vampire manacingly floating in the air or looking on some poor advanturers from a half-collapsed archway. 2 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: Pretend he's not awkwardly Standing On Rock(tm) and imagine more definition on the hair. Boom. then he's great (imo). I think it might be a woman, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragest Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, JackStreicher said: Can someone please hype me? I don't know how I feel about the Vampire the longer I look at it X_x Just a generic vampire lord, now imagine named ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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