Neil Arthur Hotep Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, JackStreicher said: Mine will have white or black hair. The red is way too orange-y and, as others said, lacks contrast Go full Bride of Frankenstein and have black AND white hair. 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still-young Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, JackStreicher said: Isn‘t there a lockdown in the UK? (If so The video had to be prefabricated) Yes, but you’re allowed to go to work. They looked 2m apart, which is the guideline. I’m still in the office most days. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still-young Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 9 hours ago, Ragest said: I don’t get the gender controversy about the Vampire. Who cares? You can either say thats your vamp dude ruler of all zombies or the girl vamp ruler of all zombies. I mean, what’s the point? There was no controversy. There was some confusion, but no controversy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorryLizard Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 9 hours ago, Enoby said: I do really like Vlad, but I'm wondering if it'd be a good idea to bring more WHFB characters back. Okay maybe I'm hippocritical because I really like Sigvald, but at the same time I think AoS could do with some new named characters with books written about them. While I do love Sigvald, I would prefer a book about Syll'Esske or Glutos than Sigvald just to give more narrative to the new guys. People would go crazy for Vlad, no doubt, but maybe it'd be better if we had a few new characters instead. Strong agree. A mix of new and returning heroes is for the best IMO. Let AoS have its own unique named heroes also taking part in the story as major players. Imagine 5 years down the line and they introduce a new 'vampire hero, Natascha lord of the Hunt' and she is leading the charge in an anti-Nagash rebellion. People will point to 10 years of history in AoS (by that point) and whine about the 'mary sue' coming in and doing what their old world counterparts couldn't or didn't. Conversely if you're releaunching the faction properly now is the time to establish your precedent, release new named heroes, name drop and lore hint new AoS characters and start building up that 'historical weight' so you're not constantly sharing things with the Old World. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souleater Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, JackStreicher said: Isn‘t there a lockdown in the UK? (If so The video had to be prefabricated) Games Workshop is considered an Essential Service here in the UK. It's keeping the economy running for one thing. 🤣 Regarding a civil war, given how stretched out Nagash's mind apparently is, couldn't he end up fighting different aspects or versions of himself? Edited January 20, 2021 by Souleater 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I've put together a list of models that I think we could possibly be seeing for Death, trying to take all the rumour engines and other spoilers into account: Deadwalker hero and zombies: Spoiler Hero: Troops: Ramshackle weapons type Birdhouse Zombie type Giant bat or gargoyle Spoiler Vampire duellists (might be the Underworlds warband) Spoiler Deathrattle Hero Spoiler Grant Denasty, the fastest man in Vallachia Spoiler Foot Vampire knights Spoiler Necromancer vampire Spoiler New Deathrattle unit? Spoiler Centerpiece diorama? Spoiler The Creature of Ulvenkarn Spoiler Any thoughts? 15 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I strongly suspect that the second image in your foot vampire knights collection, the boot, is in fact for 40k ecclesiarchy. Has similar curlicues to their existing models and some of the other previewed stuff. The two-handed sword could be a different specialist vampire hero of some sort as well. Otherwise I think this is a solid outline. Of the WHU vampires, we have the two silhouettes, the more recent of which matches your first 'vampire duelists' sword but doesn't have a dagger. I think we're looking at a three-person warband there. For the zombie weapons, it's hard to tell exactly what's going on. The club is pretty big so I think we're looking at a variety of unit types or characters - maybe a human-sized unit and an ogre-sized unit/character? - but given how odd a lot of details are, it could be anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yokai Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: Any thoughts? Looking pretty solid to me. Still funny that the Vampire Lord wasn't in any Rumour Engine, but still spoiled in its entirety just before the presentation. Sucks to be GW sometimes. 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, sandlemad said: I strongly suspect that the second image in your foot vampire knights collection, the boot, is in fact for 40k ecclesiarchy. Has similar curlicues to their existing models and some of the other previewed stuff. The two-handed sword could be a different specialist vampire hero of some sort as well. Otherwise I think this is a solid outline. Of the WHU vampires, we have the two silhouettes, the more recent of which matches your first 'vampire duelists' sword but doesn't have a dagger. I think we're looking at a three-person warband there. For the zombie weapons, it's hard to tell exactly what's going on. The club is pretty big so I think we're looking at a variety of unit types or characters - maybe a human-sized unit and an ogre-sized unit/character? - but given how odd a lot of details are, it could be anything. To be honest, I didn't really know what to do with the straight sword holding vampire hand. I think vampire infantry is a fairly plausible addition for a Soulblight battletome, but I don't really have much confidence in that one. The boot is just there because it's black and has a skull on it, but it could be anything. It could even be nothing. I have been thinking about the WHU warband. I also think three or four vampires is a safe bet. Vampires are usually fairly elite, and we already have two silhouettes that look to be vampires. Since WHU warbands in recent times have reflected units in the army they are from, it is possible that vampire duellists are a new troop choice for Soulblight. In that case, not all rapiers and daggers would have to go in the warband. Another option could be that the WHU warband is not all vampires, but contains some minions as well. I find that unlikely, though. Except something like a dire wolf maybe. As for zombies: "The leader of a zombie horde can be armed with a Graveyardsmash Monstermasher." I could imagine the club being a special weapon option like that. I also fully expect some of these rumour engine pictures to be part of Warhammer Quest if we do indeed get one. 21 minutes ago, Yokai said: Looking pretty solid to me. Still funny that the Vampire Lord wasn't in any Rumour Engine, but still spoiled in its entirety just before the presentation. Sucks to be GW sometimes. 😛 Makes me hopeful that there could be a lot we have not seen yet, though. That was the case for Hedonites as well. Edited January 20, 2021 by Neil Arthur Hotep 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drcrater Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: I've put together a list of models that I think we could possibly be seeing for Death, trying to take all the rumour engines and other spoilers into account: Deadwalker hero and zombies: Hide contents Hero: Troops: Ramshackle weapons type Birdhouse Zombie type Giant bat or gargoyle Hide contents Vampire duellists (might be the Underworlds warband) Hide contents Deathrattle Hero Hide contents Grant Denasty, the fastest man in Vallachia Hide contents Foot Vampire knights Hide contents Necromancer vampire Hide contents New Deathrattle unit? Hide contents Centerpiece diorama? Hide contents The Creature of Ulvenkarn Hide contents Any thoughts? damn, looking at this makes you think about the TON of death-related rumour engines we have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: I have been thinking about the WHU warband. I also think three or four vampires is a safe bet. Vampires are usually fairly elite, and we already have two silhouettes that look to be vampires. Since WHU warbands in recent times have reflected units in the army they are from, it is possible that vampire duellists are a new troop choice for Soulblight. In that case, not all rapiers and daggers would have to go in the warband. Yeah, it's a case of one of the rumour engine images being very solidly associated with a WHU silhouette and the others being up for grabs. The left-handed dagger could well be part of the first silhouette, the one resting her right-handed curved sabre on her shoulder, and the others associated with a third fighter but as you said it's not like we can define a minimum here, particularly as there's plausibly stuff we haven't seen at all. There's certainly still room for some sort of elite vampire skirmisher unit, a bit like the old Vespero's Vendetta mercenary unit for WHFB, but all statted out like heroes. That'd be rad. One thing I'd add though is that while WHU warbands do reflect particular troop choices in AoS armies, they can vary a bit in things like weaponry or presentation. With e.g. the Dread Pageant, Vasilic is a weird former Myrmidesh semi-hero whose weapons don't really reflect their loadouts and Glisette is a dismounted Slickblade Seeker, which doesn't have an exact AoS unit equivalent. So while I hope it's not the case, the WHU vampire warband could simply be presented as "those same old Blood Knights you know and love but without their mounts and now they like duelling" or perhaps a version of a more generic AoS mixed-weaponry vampire infantry unit that has a sword-and-dagger flavour. Edited January 20, 2021 by sandlemad 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: I've put together a list of models that I think we could possibly be seeing for Death, trying to take all the rumour engines and other spoilers into account: Deadwalker hero and zombies: Hide contents Hero: Troops: Ramshackle weapons type Birdhouse Zombie type Giant bat or gargoyle Hide contents Vampire duellists (might be the Underworlds warband) Hide contents Deathrattle Hero Hide contents Grant Denasty, the fastest man in Vallachia Hide contents Foot Vampire knights Hide contents Necromancer vampire Hide contents New Deathrattle unit? Hide contents Centerpiece diorama? Hide contents The Creature of Ulvenkarn Hide contents Any thoughts? Bloody hell mate great work!! Hopefully we have a massive Preview this weekend!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zamerion Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 so much variety of different images, similar, but with very different aesthetics, is what makes me think that first we will see a warhammer quest. We can see images that look like skeletons, other zombies, other vampires, ghouls.. bats and other pets (with keys) too much variety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepkin Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 The critters might be this WHQ's version of the familiars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkbelly Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 55 minutes ago, sandlemad said: Yeah, it's a case of one of the rumour engine images being very solidly associated with a WHU silhouette and the others being up for grabs. The left-handed dagger could well be part of the first silhouette, the one resting her right-handed curved sabre on her shoulder, and the others associated with a third fighter but as you said it's not like we can define a minimum here, particularly as there's plausibly stuff we haven't seen at all. There's certainly still room for some sort of elite vampire skirmisher unit, a bit like the old Vespero's Vendetta mercenary unit for WHFB, but all statted out like heroes. That'd be rad. Vampiro's Vendetta. Cool. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoooouls Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) My bet is that itll be the new vampire lord, and new Soulblight Gravelords battletome shown. Similar to he (re)release of Skaven, few new models but new rules and perhaps endless spells. Mannfred and Neffy move over, as do skellies, zombies, bats, wolves, blood knights etc. Etc. All with updated rules. Edited January 20, 2021 by Ghoooouls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brotherhood of Necros Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I’m hoping for a big, beautiful piece of artwork, similar to the IDK/DoK one they revealed when they announced BR: Morathi 😍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverstu Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: I've put together a list of models that I think we could possibly be seeing for Death, trying to take all the rumour engines and other spoilers into account: Deadwalker hero and zombies: Hide contents Hero: Troops: Ramshackle weapons type Birdhouse Zombie type Giant bat or gargoyle Hide contents Vampire duellists (might be the Underworlds warband) Hide contents Deathrattle Hero Reveal hidden contents Grant Denasty, the fastest man in Vallachia Reveal hidden contents Foot Vampire knights Reveal hidden contents Necromancer vampire Reveal hidden contents New Deathrattle unit? Reveal hidden contents Centerpiece diorama? Reveal hidden contents The Creature of Ulvenkarn Reveal hidden contents Any thoughts? Well looking at the duelists and the silhouette of the Underworlds vamp - I think they definitely look like they are going for the more slender/androgynous look as those arms/wrists are very thin. Really hoping for that. Thralls might be a thing - elite vampire guard/duelists on foot and hopefully mounted. The vampire lord looks very much like the line of Blood Knights, could be similar to Brettonnia -elite knights supported by peasants [zombies]. The variety of images definitely suggests a quest type game =especially as the vamp hunter as one of the heroes. Really interesting to see what comes - it could be Underworlds, Quest and Battletome .. maybe Quest first with a Tome coming later.. I'd love the blood knights to Deaths rebels.. Abhorash for the win.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) Underworld's Vampire: Sauce. Definitely feeling the paint job on this one a lot more. The armour being broken up by the cloth and the more defined hair really makes it pop. Also, Bonesplittaz confirmed for coming after Soulblight: Edited January 20, 2021 by Clan's Cynic 16 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasnad Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) will get that warband, at least to have some more vampire lord models, and the next warband does indeed look like bonespliters Edited January 20, 2021 by Nasnad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAWzrd Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: Any thoughts? Thanks for putting that together, it was getting hard to keep track of all the death related rumour engines. I think you’re spot on with everything, especially the “Creature/Beast of Ulfenkarn”. If it is indeed the Warhammer Quest, there’s lots of potential for some of these being expansions similar to the Blackstone Fortress adding warbands and monsters, hence the menagerie of death rumour engines. There’s a reasonable chance that some of these could be an indication of Flesh Eater Courts in the future, if they aren’t part of the Soulblight Gravelords. Spoiler I used to think the critters with keys was hinting at the Carrion King / Ushoran combined with that foot on the ruins. A subtle nod at his imprisonment by Nagash in the Shroudcage maybe? I think you are right with it being tied to whatever Ulfenkarn will be though, it’s more bestial than ghoulish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Syf Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 These new Vampires are perfect. Is it too much to believe Abhorash will be making his tabletop debut?!? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 That new vampire looks like a brutal fighter!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkbelly Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Wow! I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yokai Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: Underworld's Vampire: Sauce. Definitely feeling the paint job on this one a lot more. The armour being broken up by the cloth and the more defined hair really makes it pop. Now THAT is what I call a vampiress! No doubts about the gender anymore, eh? 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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