JackStreicher Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 How does this survey matter at all? How is this even a discussion? 6 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronos Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 36 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: It is fun, indeed, but maybe if an AoS mini takes the first spot it could lead to some top-level decisions in favour of AoS, don't we think? Or am I going too far? Not unless those votes are pay per click (I hope I haven’t given them any ideas there). They don’t make decisions based on polls, they do so based on revenue. I guess to an extent some of the armies are not just based on revenue……… Tau 👤 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 28 minutes ago, JackStreicher said: How does this survey matter at all? How is this even a discussion? We need something to talk about with the lack of rumours and it's fun to grumble. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitGas Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Souleater said: I don’t think they rig the outcome. There are just so many marine players; a lot of whom seem to reflexively vote for Marine models. I saw one chap comment that he’d voted for The Lion because of the story development the character got. Meanwhile, as other folks have said, AoS gets a very wide range of excellent models to pick from which dilutes our chances. Yeah, it‘s rigged in so far, they every second person in the GW hobby plays mahreens. I love space marines as well, they‘re cool, but they still don‘t deserve the win. 😇 And it‘s sad thar mahreen players can‘t look past their pond and honor other models. Hell, even I can congratulate the light of Eltharion or Coolathis! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 4 hours ago, BarakUrbaz said: In regards to Grombrindal, here's an important thing from an interview with the author: https://www.trackofwords.com/2022/12/14/rapid-fire-david-guymer-talks-grombrindal/ >ToW: The short stories included in this book were first published in White Dwarf magazine, right? Could you tell us a bit about how that came to be, and what the idea was for them? >DG: I actually can’t remember! I’ve had to dig into my inbox and found this one from way back in July 2019. Apparently, I was still busy with re-writes for Lord of the First and planning an Anvils of the Heldenhammer novel that seems to have vanished into the aether the way these things do sometimes, but would I also be interested in writing six serialised short stories about Grombrindal to tie in with the release of a new miniature? So there were plans to make a new Grombrindal miniature dating back to July 2019. The Grombrindal White Dwarf stories released in 2021, which seems to coincide with the two years I heard it takes to get a miniature in production, though if it was the case something must've happened to prevent them from releasing it. AHEM. It appears @Whitefang has Liked this post. New White 'Duardin' model alongside 4.0? 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarakUrbaz Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Miniature of the Year doesn't have anything to do with Space Marine players, at least the Loyalist kind. Look who has won for the history of the poll: 2016: Magnus the Red (Thousand Sons) 2017: Mortarion (Death Guard) 2018: Noise Marine (Chaos Space Marines) 2019: Abaddon the Despoiler (Chaos Space Marines) 2020: Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka (Orks) 2021: Be'lakor (Daemons of Chaos) 2022: Avatar of Khaine (Craftworld Eldar) 2023: Lion El'Jonson (Dark Angels) So the Lion is the first time a Space Marine that isn't Chaos has won Miniature of the Year. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 At least Be'lakor is an AoS character 😏 5 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunbag Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 they should separate the games for the miniature of the year . W40k has more player than any other game so it will be always be their miniature that takes the votes . 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragest Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Grunbag said: they should separate the games for the miniature of the year . W40k has more player than any other game so it will be always be their miniature that takes the votes . Who cares? 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitGas Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 33 minutes ago, Ragest said: Who cares? Well, you are right of course, it‘s inconsequential but it would be kinda nice to have an AoS category, cause obviously most will vote for a 40k mini… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gitzdee Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 42 minutes ago, Ragest said: Who cares? The artists who design great minis for AoS. The people who like AoS and dont care for 40k. People like me who are curious to see what the community of AoS thinks is the best AoS model. If its supposed to be a fun thing, why should it be another 40k show? 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Whilst I can see both sides here and both are valid I believe the artists get just s much satisfaction seeing all those wonderful pieces across Instagram, etc. Also I'm sure the artists know that "hey I sculpted the new snarlfang riders" so pretty sure I'm not going to win this very biased and inconsequential contest. I believe the lead sculptor was responsible for Angron for whatever that's worth. It's a fun little thing but I don't think it's worth too much attention is all m saying here. PS, the snarlfang riders are one of my absolute fav kits of the year so big props to whoever sculpted them!! 🤘🐺🤘 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, Gitzdee said: The artists who design great minis for AoS. The people who like AoS and dont care for 40k. People like me who are curious to see what the community of AoS thinks is the best AoS model. If its supposed to be a fun thing, why should it be another 40k show? It would be so nice and so easy to add the name/ Instagram of each sculptor on the miniature purchase pages... 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Kim Woof-Woof Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Ejecutor said: It would be so nice and so easy to add the name/ Instagram of each sculptor on the miniature purchase pages... That'd be nice. I can't understand the trend of not crediting individual designers/writers/artists. Very corporate and faceless. Seems a shame. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutton Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Ragest said: Who cares? It's amusing to look retrospectively at the year's models and see which ones people enjoyed. Nobody (I hope) actually cares about what wins; it's just for fun. But there's literally no reason they can't separate 40k from AoS in the voting, which would lift up even more great models that deserve to be recognized. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetconnedLegion Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Big Kim Woof-Woof said: That'd be nice. I can't understand the trend of not crediting individual designers/writers/artists. Very corporate and faceless. Seems a shame. It’s to avoid another Matt Ward situation where an unpopular product leads to its designer receiving death threats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Kim Woof-Woof Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, RetconnedLegion said: It’s to avoid another Matt Ward situation where an unpopular product leads to its designer receiving death threats. Should have guessed it'd be something like that. Typical. A few bad apples ruining things for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, RetconnedLegion said: It’s to avoid another Matt Ward situation where an unpopular product leads to its designer receiving death threats. This gets brought up by fans sometimes but there’s never been any evidence for it for artists and writers (where it’s better attributed to GW business and marketing practices), and it’s especially inaccurate for sculptors. They regularly feature interviews on WHC and in WD where folks like Maxime Pastourel talk about particular minis they’ve done and design choices they’ve made. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKull Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, RetconnedLegion said: It’s to avoid another Matt Ward situation where an unpopular product leads to its designer receiving death threats. Only it isn't, really. Even Peachy said during a podcast appearance (the one he occasionally co-hosts, name escapes me) that such claims were more of an excuse than the real reason, noting that artists themselves don't take the threat of a Matt Ward scenario seriously and would much rather be credited. IIRC, he mentioned that they don't credit the artist because they don't want to have another Duncan Rhodes scenario, and want consumers to think about art/models in terms of Games Workshop the brand, rather as the work of an individual artist. Edited December 30, 2023 by KingKull 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) I watched an interview with Rick Priestly who said that he deliberately left his own name off rule books it was egoistic. As he was a senior member of GW during its formative years, I suspect that it was something that became company culture which is unfortunate. It’s this interview. https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx7Ml5RUWGqsH7KrHae2kII0AOd5LGb5zF?si=tbN4x0nGquNyo687 He didn’t like the ‘cult of personality’ gw had. Edited December 30, 2023 by Chikout 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Taylor Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 +++ Mod Hat On +++ Folks, this should be a separate topic 😉😉 Back to rumours please! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Sigmarite Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Talking about rumours, has the guy from TG posted more "when he is able" or is he still not able to post more ? (Will he ever post more ?) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 47 minutes ago, The Lost Sigmarite said: Talking about rumours, has the guy from TG posted more "when he is able" or is he still not able to post more ? (Will he ever post more ?) It is fake 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Sigmarite Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Nezzhil said: It is fake It is a I suspected... Edited December 30, 2023 by The Lost Sigmarite 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 4 hours ago, RetconnedLegion said: It’s to avoid another Matt Ward situation where an unpopular product leads to its designer receiving death threats. Wow. No way. That's crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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