Captaniser Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 18 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: New Model Monday is 40k again. At least it's a Kroot. Eh, I Dunno about this one. New kroot are always welcome, but this one seems too similar to the 2 previously shown kroot characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 15 minutes ago, Captaniser said: Eh, I Dunno about this one. New kroot are always welcome, but this one seems too similar to the 2 previously shown kroot characters. They’re fairly distinct. The War Shaper has distinct gear (staff, bow, triskele), a cloak and no hood. The Flesh Shaper has robes and assorted swords/axes. If anything, this dude is sort of an update to the classic kroot shaper mini: hood, rifle, knee-socks. A bit plain but works for a lower level character. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordSolarMach Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) Edit: posted without seeing another (two!) pages in the thread; I see that it's been addressed. Edited February 12 by LordSolarMach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EonChao Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 minutes ago, LordSolarMach said: The Space Marine Index had a bunch of units that were then moved to Legends when their Codex released a few months later. Yes but those are models that still have rules for them for that edition. If I want to take my old Landspeeder to a game I can despite it not being in the codex itself 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordSolarMach Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 14 minutes ago, EonChao said: Yes but those are models that still have rules for them for that edition. If I want to take my old Landspeeder to a game I can despite it not being in the codex itself Yeah, I saw it was addressed and made an edit (but not quickly enough!). (Though, they'd still probably have Legends rules regardless, which seems effectively the same?) // On the Spearhead vs Vanguard thing, it might be worth pointing out that the Spearhead: Stormcast Eternals is a clear equivalent to the Vanguard: Orruk Warclans. Yndrasta + Knights-Vexillor + 3 Annihilators 10 Vindictors Stormstrike Chariot vs Killaboss on Great Gnashtoof + Murknob with Belcha-banna + 3 Man-skewer Boltboyz 10 Gutrippaz Beast-skewer Killbow Edited February 12 by LordSolarMach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zamerion Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 hours ago, Nezzhil said: GW leaked a PDF https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/ky07loXaKIGJVfTi.pdf It says that Big Pigs momemtum is reduced at the end of the round instead each turn. Other point is that the date is for the 15/02, next Thursday That exactly said a leaked from reddit two weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 hours ago, Vagard said: Isn't the cleaver and meat part a romour engine? Which one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiro Kabocha Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 5 hours ago, Ejecutor said: FEC has a problem. The army box released all the new units. Apart from that it is all new heroes. What can you add to the spearhead then? It has to be the same, unless you go into older stuff, which has been in vanguard, combat patrol, battleforces and all the other trillion different names for almost 9 years. Agreed. It's wave 1 of a faction update that only added 1 infantry and 1 elite alongside 5 heroes. Pretty much every FEC box is gonna have these two units for the next few years. As for the box itself, they could have at least replaced the Varghulf with one of the other new heroes. That would have solved the problem for those who bought the army box but might make it a weaker standalone box if Spearhead gets its own ruleset. I would have preferred it if they dropped one hero and added Crypt Horrors/Flayers instead but they probably wanted to stick with new units only. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, Shiro Kabocha said: Agreed. It's wave 1 of a faction update that only added 1 infantry and 1 elite alongside 5 heroes. Pretty much every FEC box is gonna have these two units for the next few years. As for the box itself, they could have at least replaced the Varghulf with one of the other new heroes. That would have solved the problem for those who bought the army box but might make it a weaker standalone box if Spearhead gets its own ruleset. I would have preferred it if they dropped one hero and added Crypt Horrors/Flayers instead but they probably wanted to stick with new units only. You can look at it the other way around as well. If you have the box, and the Archregent (could even use the Gorewarden as proxy) you can go and play Spearhead mode if they launch it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 hours ago, Grunbag said: My guess was right about COS , so I hope I had same luck with IJ now Guess the next CoS wave, please 🔮 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 hours ago, LordSolarMach said: Yeah, I saw it was addressed and made an edit (but not quickly enough!). (Though, they'd still probably have Legends rules regardless, which seems effectively the same?) // On the Spearhead vs Vanguard thing, it might be worth pointing out that the Spearhead: Stormcast Eternals is a clear equivalent to the Vanguard: Orruk Warclans. Yndrasta + Knights-Vexillor + 3 Annihilators 10 Vindictors Stormstrike Chariot vs Killaboss on Great Gnashtoof + Murknob with Belcha-banna + 3 Man-skewer Boltboyz 10 Gutrippaz Beast-skewer Killbow If the Spearheads launch at a price of 110 €, like the Orruks one, it would be mad for the CoS one! Like a 54-55% discount (including third party store discount) over the GW price for all their separate products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I have been missing in action for the past few weeks, but just popping on to say I am excited to see that the new cities Spearhead will compliment my current little collection well. Now I just need to get the Potifex, Command Corps, and Callis and Toll. It won't be a balanced force by any means but it will get me a number of my most wanted models. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Btw, speculation time. The next Hachette collection would be based on the Combat Patrols. Do you see it feasible that in around 2-3 years we start seeing the trial period for a Spearhead based one that gets stuff like the minis they showed us today in those boxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzaprez Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) Just chewing on recent stuff a bit; The Beastmen had a Sire of Ruin character mentioned a few times around the time where Morghur, the main guy associated with mutations and spawns, was mentioned: story seemed to be building towards one or both of them Beastmen were axed offscreen Now the Slaves have a character named the Lady of Ruin who, apparently, a few pages back was mentioned has having a spear that makes chaos spawn.... If beasts really are on the outs, and they really did have a narrative arc that was dropped, I wonder if the Sire of Ruin wasn't (to some degree) reworked into this Lady character? I could see "lady Varanguard boss who is hunting for traitors" and "herald of Ruin with spear of mutation" having been two separate ideas for a minute before things were adjusted Edited February 12 by Pizzaprez 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Chaos's whole schtick, especially as a Grand Alliance, is Ruin though so idk. having two different heralds of ruin would be fine? I'm not about to believe Beasts are getting cut without some sort of replacement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzaprez Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, CommissarRotke said: Chaos's whole schtick, especially as a Grand Alliance, is Ruin though so idk. having two different heralds of ruin would be fine? I'm not about to believe Beasts are getting cut without some sort of replacement. The specific title of "X of Ruin" being used for two different characters is noteworthy to me, though. I know AoS had some weirdness early on like Seraphon being a dragon and also Lizardmen, but to hint at/release two new chaos characters relatively close to one another that are both focused on "ruin" in particular in their title? Idk that's weird to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augusto Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Well, she is not mentioned as Lady of Ruin, or even named trought the short story, but the asociation of lady boss varanguard and that title was made before. Also we kinda know for some whitefangs likes she has a lance iirc. In the story that lance has some kind of magic flamethrower that turns people into spawn or mutates them into things that look a lot to spawns. Kinda Tzeentch maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EonChao Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 hours ago, Ejecutor said: Btw, speculation time. The next Hachette collection would be based on the Combat Patrols. Do you see it feasible that in around 2-3 years we start seeing the trial period for a Spearhead based one that gets stuff like the minis they showed us today in those boxes? I could see them do it quite easily. Something like 2 for each Grand Alliance with possibly a 3rd one for either Order or Chaos. The only question will be whether or not several of the Stormcast units from the new launch box and starters are a separate Spearhead to the revealed box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painbringer Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I don’t know if someone else has seen this, but Stu Black announced on LinkedIn that he is now Lead Product Development Manager for WH40K and Age of Sigmar. Does this mean that he is responsible for both games? I think that Ben Johnson was in that role for AoS - is Ben still part of the team? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrac Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I still Wonder if for the "half of the release" for the kroots rerange Warcom/GW IS counting the kroot aniversary model. If they do, then its just two more kits left: the shadowy mounted character... And perhaps the Great gnarloc? But if they dont, theres space for another kit more, Id speculate about another shaper or gnarloc Riders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EonChao Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I'm assuming it does include it, better to air on the side of caution. Which would mean presumable a mounted shaper and a unit of gnarloc riders left to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) Not to get our "Fantasty" forum too off track but I don't think we'll see knarloc riders. Maybe a greater at best. I think they'd overlap too much with rampagers. The unreleased rider silhouette has got to be a krootor (maybe a new name) unless they've redone the knarloc design. Anyone of these would be appreciated though. So excited for this release!! Won't say anymore as this is an AoS forum. Edited February 13 by Vasshpit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I am currently listening to the realmstones episode of loremasters and I got an interesting idea. In the video they mention that Ulgian realmstone can be found in the shape of spider webs. What about leaving the current incarnate as the Ghurian incarnate and reuse the spider one as the Ulgian incarnate? Maybe they focus on one incarnate per realm rather than a few per realm. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togetak Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 5 hours ago, Pizzaprez said: Just chewing on recent stuff a bit; The Beastmen had a Sire of Ruin character mentioned a few times around the time where Morghur, the main guy associated with mutations and spawns, was mentioned: story seemed to be building towards one or both of them Beastmen were axed offscreen Now the Slaves have a character named the Lady of Ruin who, apparently, a few pages back was mentioned has having a spear that makes chaos spawn.... If beasts really are on the outs, and they really did have a narrative arc that was dropped, I wonder if the Sire of Ruin wasn't (to some degree) reworked into this Lady character? I could see "lady Varanguard boss who is hunting for traitors" and "herald of Ruin with spear of mutation" having been two separate ideas for a minute before things were adjusted I think the model for a human woman who’s a member of the Varanguard is probably pretty unlikely to have been a BoC character they changed up at the last minute or something, the models get designed years in advance. I’m still pretty suspect on the idea of BoC being squatted too, I know whitefang liked that post of the guy saying “they’re going to be put in legacy and squatted next edition so they can be in TOW” but this coming a little more than a year after they got a new battletome and model (which would then just.. cease to exist, I guess? Go out of production a year after it was created?) is such a deranged decision to me, cutting a faction out of a preexisting mainline game and dropping all its presence in the world of that game so you can sell less of those models in a specialist side game, feels like an impossibly bad business decision with no real reason to do it. I could see them getting a refresh, they’re one of the factions left who need it, but the idea of going “this faction that’s been in the game for the last three editions? It’s gone now, enjoy” basically arbitrarily is not something that makes any sense to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzaprez Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Togetak said: I think the model for a human woman who’s a member of the Varanguard is probably pretty unlikely to have been a BoC character they changed up at the last minute or something, the models get designed years in advance. I’m still pretty suspect on the idea of BoC being squatted too, I know whitefang liked that post of the guy saying “they’re going to be put in legacy and squatted next edition so they can be in TOW” but this coming a little more than a year after they got a new battletome and model (which would then just.. cease to exist, I guess? Go out of production a year after it was created?) is such a deranged decision to me, cutting a faction out of a preexisting mainline game and dropping all its presence in the world of that game so you can sell less of those models in a specialist side game, feels like an impossibly bad business decision with no real reason to do it. I could see them getting a refresh, they’re one of the factions left who need it, but the idea of going “this faction that’s been in the game for the last three editions? It’s gone now, enjoy” basically arbitrarily is not something that makes any sense to me Nah I doubt a varanguard character was made for Beasts, but a varanguard character they already had in the pipes suddenly getting a couple plot beats from a cut beastmen character's background makes sense to me. "Oh; the evil spear she has is a magic one that causes chaos spawns to spawn during a game" Causing lots of chaos spawns is generally a Morghur thing, or tzeentch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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