Captaniser Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 2 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: #NewAoS mini today. Yay or Nay? I will assume that GW will wait to show the other models that will be coming for the Skaven and stormcast until they have secured the pre-orders for the starter set first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarrWolves Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 2 hours ago, alyra said: hmmmm i really hope those scrolls get buffed up in normal games because...., that carnosaur is the absolute worst monster i have seen in all aos history. he has a scroll like small heros on mount like, not like heros on behemots. but with some more wounds. and lost everything for only a +1 charge to 1 unit, that cant even be himself, despite in spearhead games only will have 2 other units beside him lol. i really hope it be only to balance a big monsters in spearhead games but..... every spearhead scroll have had same wepon profile, besides captains etc. so i guess poor carnosaur will be bad again. so sad for seraphon players like me that love to play dinosaurs Don't worry they are tuned down for spearhead to keep things balanced: look at the Krox spearhead warscroll, it's lots weaker than the regular one. And the Carnosaur is the only monster (besides the treelord) in the spearheads (that were at Dallas), so it's not surprising it got nerfed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 19 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: #NewAoS mini today. Yay or Nay? With the Necromunda coming or BB waiting for new Star Players both are candidates to have the Monday model meanwhile #NewAoS is not out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-knight77 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 35 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: #NewAoS mini today. Yay or Nay? Nay Waaaay to early not to mention there other things that could come first while they position the starter box realse date They even kept it vauge calling a "spicy model" rather then just out right say it a AoS model like they usally does so it should like a bloodbowl player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitGas Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 4 hours ago, Garrac said: Sorry for beating the dead horse again, but I couldn't help it Not cool, vermin*, not cool. Leave Beastmen alone! *Chris Crocker cries* Edited May 20 by MitGas *I‘m using this due to you being a rat, not to insult you personally. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippy Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 30 minutes ago, KarrWolves said: Don't worry they are tuned down for spearhead to keep things balanced: look at the Krox spearhead warscroll, it's lots weaker than the regular one. And the Carnosaur is the only monster (besides the treelord) in the spearheads (that were at Dallas), so it's not surprising it got nerfed I agree. If anything, this warscroll shows that the effort to balance the Spearhead mode is real. And I guess it's either through mechanism like "this models arrive to the battle later on" or nerfing, which was likely applied to Carnosaur. As he is the only leader model in this box, it might not be viable to simply postpone his arrival to the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarakUrbaz Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 I just wonder how the hell the Arkanaut Frigate for the KO box is going to be nerfed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flippy Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 16 minutes ago, BarakUrbaz said: I just wonder how the hell the Arkanaut Frigate for the KO box is going to be nerfed. It's easy (and rather in line with the flavour) to make the Frigate arrive later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) I selfishly hope Fyreslayers don't release early, just because that increases the odds of a substantial model wave... although I suppose Dark Angels did get a few goodies despite being relatively early. Edited May 20 by Clan's Cynic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarff Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 I hope FS are getting a new, more balanced spearhead with their (hopefully) range update this edition. The current one is really uninspired, especially compared to the other spearheads. 20 Vulkites, 5 hearthguard and a Battlesmith makes the army seem like a horde army even though it isn't. My dream would be 10 vulkites (because they are obligatory for every set), 3-5 minidroth cavalry and either a magmadroth or a new hero. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Necromunda for today's New Model Money, sorry folks. They do look sick though. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarff Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: I selfishly hope Fyreslayers don't release quickly, just because that increases the odds of a substantial model wave... although I suppose Dark Angels did get a few goodies despite being relatively early. I don't know if it reduces the chances of a substantial wave. They might already be in the works. Store anniversary Runesmiter and Vulkyn Flameseekers definitely indicate they are. Together with the Grimhold Exile and the Auric Flamekeeper they have quite a consistent and slightly renewed style. It'd need to be a big wave though, but Seraphon, CoS, StD, Ironjawz, SBG, FeC last edition have shown that they're perfectly capable of that. If it's just one unit and a hero I'll be very disappointed. It also seems like the narrative will go to them quite quickly. The Vermindoom is right next to the adamantite chain. Edited May 20 by Snarff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 minute ago, Clan's Cynic said: Necromunda for today's New Model Money, sorry folks. They do look sick though. No #NewAoS I thought it could be a nice way to keep the hype up. Maybe in the following weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Snarff said: I don't know if it reduces the chances of a substantial wave. They might already be in the works. Store anniversary Runesmiter and Vulkyn Flameseekers definitely indicate they are. Together with the Grimhold Exile and the Auric Flamekeeper they have quite a consistent and slightly renewed style. It'd need to be a big wave though, but Seraphon, CoS, StD, Ironjawz, SBG, FeC last edition have shown that they're perfectly capable of that. If it's just one unit and a hero I'll be very disappointed. It also seems like the narrative will go to them quite quickly. The Vermindoom is right next to the adamantite chain. I do hope you're right, though I wouldn't put that much stock in the edition's narrative increasing the odds - this side of it anyway. Era of the Beast, anyone? Edited May 20 by Clan's Cynic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HCMistborn Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 2 minutes ago, Snarff said: I don't know if it reduces the chances of a substantial wave. They might already be in the works. Store anniversary Runesmiter and Vulkyn Flameseekers definitely indicate they are. Together with the Grimhold Exile and the Auric Flamekeeper they have quite a consistent and slightly renewed style. It'd need to be a big wave though, but Seraphon, CoS, StD, Ironjawz, SBG, FeC last edition have shown that they're perfectly capable of that. If it's just one unit and a hero I'll be very disappointed. It also seems like the narrative will go to them quite quickly. The Vermindoom is right next to the adamantite chain. I can see how Chaos Dwarfs will visually work as the enemy of Fyreslayers, I don't know if there is any history between the factions. But I could see a Chaos Dwarf vs Fyreslayer box being pretty cool. Fire and Greed or Gold and Brass or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 3 minutes ago, Snarff said: I don't know if it reduces the chances of a substantial wave. They might already be in the works. Store anniversary Runesmiter and Vulkyn Flameseekers definitely indicate they are. Together with the Grimhold Exile and the Auric Flamekeeper they have quite a consistent and slightly renewed style. It'd need to be a big wave though, but Seraphon, CoS, StD, Ironjawz, SBG, FeC last edition have shown that they're perfectly capable of that. If it's just one unit and a hero I'll be very disappointed. It also seems like the narrative will go to them quite quickly. The Vermindoom is right next to the adamantite chain. I would expect something in line with the IJ release, not bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragest Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 3 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: No #NewAoS I thought it could be a nice way to keep the hype up. Maybe in the following weeks. Mate, they have just revelaed the full box, and now we are going to get a month full of rules everyday with the faction focuses. We should have a little bit of patience. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarff Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 minute ago, HCMistborn said: I can see how Chaos Dwarfs will visually work as the enemy of Fyreslayers, I don't know if there is any history between the factions. But I could see a Chaos Dwarf vs Fyreslayer box being pretty cool. Fire and Greed or Gold and Brass or something. I don't think they'd do a box with Duardin vs Duardin. The two sides of a dual box are quite different usually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 minute ago, Ragest said: Mate, they have just revelaed the full box, and now we are going to get a month full of rules everyday with the faction focuses. We should have a little bit of patience. I am patient. Also, I don't want any of those models either, I am just thinking of ways to keep the momentum. So far the hype has been handled pretty poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 I don't know where this comes from: ----------------- NH is still Ethereal. MV8, Fly, Ward 6+. Fly is especially strong in Spearhead and they're one of the fastest armies. Oh and auto wound on 6+ to hit. Wave of Terror is: if you roll a 10+ charge, pick a unit within 1" and they have fights last. The faction abilities are pick either: Choose a unit at the start of the game and you have and additional rend against it. Or Friendly units that charged this turn are -1 to be hit. I don't remember all the enhancements. The best one made the Knight of Shrouds Crit on 5+. Another one was the Knight could only be targeted by one fight or shoot ability per phase. The Knight of Shrouds is 6 wounds, 5 attacks 4+/3+ rend 1, 2D Crit Mortal. In your hero phase he can give a unit wholly within 9" a 5+ ward until your next turn. Grimghast Reapers were split into two units of 5. 1 wound 2 attacks each, 4+/3+ rend 1 1D. Don't remember their ability. Spirit Hosts were 3 wounds, 6 attacks 4+/4+ no rend 1D. If they are within 1" of the Knight of Shrouds they give him a 4+ ward. Two units of 10 Chainrasps. 1W, 2 attacks each 4+/5+ no rend 1D. If they charge they get +1 to wound. They also have the Reinforcements keyword so they can come back if they die. --‐--------------------------- These should be used on things like Shieldwall, Deathrider Wedge, etc. Mortek only had 1 melee profile and it was the spears/anti-charge one Same with Kavalos only had 1, it was spears and +1 damage on the charge I didn't play as them or against them so I don't recall a whole lot else I think bringing models back was an ability the Soulreaper had, it's what Reiknit Constructs had turned into The Harvester from what I hear slapped but I didn't get a good look at it's profile The harvester now just accumulates 'bone tithe' points for every enemy model that dies near it, and then can use those at the end of a turn to roll for a nearby Mortek unit. For every 4+, put a model back Don't really recall their regiment abilities or enhancements unfortunately Pretty sure Mortek were still 3s and 4s, and Deathrider riders were at least roughly the same. Not sure for horsies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grungnisson Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 It's a relayed information, but originating from someone, who'd heard it from GW people at Wahrammer World: ALL existing Vanguard boxes will have Spearhead support, plus the already released Spearhead boxes. That means two Spearheads for Stormcast and Skaven each, and Beasts of Chaos as well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdance93 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 I don’t have Facebook or “X” but Is anyone able to bother GW on my behalf to see if Gotrek will survive 3rd edition into 4?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragest Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 minute ago, Ejecutor said: I am patient. Also, I don't want any of those models either, I am just thinking of ways to keep the momentum. So far the hype has been handled pretty poorly. Yes, the marketing has been terrible, but I think that is because the scenery curse with dw6, warcry and skaventide delayed one or two weeks. Now we should get articles from today until 20th/21th of June, and is rumored that the announce of the box is xoming the 22th. In the pre-release day we should get the core rules and the next week the indexes, so we are covered from now until the summer, when they start announcing the new minis for the stromcast and skaven codexes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Err0rBu5 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 What kind of game archetype will chaos duardin fill? gunline? Artillery? Elite infantry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarakUrbaz Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 7 minutes ago, HCMistborn said: I can see how Chaos Dwarfs will visually work as the enemy of Fyreslayers, I don't know if there is any history between the factions. But I could see a Chaos Dwarf vs Fyreslayer box being pretty cool. Fire and Greed or Gold and Brass or something. A White Dwarf article about the Vostarg Lodge heavily implies one of their former Runesons became the first prophet of Hashut. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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