Ejecutor Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 2 minutes ago, Nezzhil said: Bad news. Maybe they will produce only the TOW box and put both bases inside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 17 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: Yeah, not seeing the bad news so far. We know dwarves and elves are part of the Cities index for the time being. They are certainly not removing them from play before the next battletome. And at that point, new cities dwarves are at least as likely as another squatting. I would say the balance is squatting 80% new duardins 20% considering in the interview the design team hinted the Religious side of CoS and that we have rumours of just a Cogfort so far and it could be the faction scenery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Maybe the wrong label theory has a base: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfyre Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Neave Blacktalon originally was just a Knight-Zephyros with an unhelmeted head (or the Knight-Zephyros was literally Neave with a helmeted head). That was literally the only difference between them. Tornus, with the helmeted head and sword load-out, and a Hallowed Knights paint scheme, is about par for the course. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasshpit Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Today is the day.... 🤘💚 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-knight77 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 57 minutes ago, Nezzhil said: Bad news. Lol aren't they coming back TOW in like 4 week from now? Like the fact that they lasted this long honestly bit humorous. They mention duardin and aelf in the order for index even if they moving away from species subfaction i definitely belive it be dorf and pointy ears in the subfaction like city dorf manning a Ironweld machine 50 minutes ago, Rachmani said: You say: Bad news! I'm like: CoS refresh that looks the part? When?? The right question 14 minutes ago, Starfyre said: Neave Blacktalon originally was just a Knight-Zephyros with an unhelmeted head (or the Knight-Zephyros was literally Neave with a helmeted head). That was literally the only difference between them. Tornus, with the helmeted head and sword load-out, and a Hallowed Knights paint scheme, is about par for the course. Yeah pretty much this just that this a first where the unhelmeted version is the generic version (especially since Tornus doesn't have a "unique" helm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 30 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: Maybe the wrong label theory has a base: From US webstore : It 's happening ! two games, two studios , two settings , two range of miniatures ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Just now, cyrus said: From US webstore : It 's happening ! two games, two studios , two settings , two range of miniatures ! My point was that it is weird that the Runelord is 'Temporary Out of Stock' rather than 'Sold Out Online' as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: Didn't we have this about Gyro bombers a while ago? They're back in stock now. I don't think this means anything. Edited June 13 by Chikout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grungnisson Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: Is there a reason to think the kit is not just out of stock temporarily? Yes. The whole trajectory of changes to Cities all the way to this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 4 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: My point was that it is weird that the Runelord is 'Temporary Out of Stock' rather than 'Sold Out Online' as well. Maybe was "temporary out of stock" before removing the ID, and the system don't detect the new state. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asbestress Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 PLEASE HAVE NEW KITS PLEASE HAVE NEW KITS PLEASE HAVE NEW KITS In my mind this either means Cities wave 2 is either coming early next year or we'll lose duardin and aelves and just get a COGFORT and Devoted later. I desperately want it to be option 1. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asbestress Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 51 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: Maybe the wrong label theory has a base: Guessing it will take some time for all of them to be marked. They'll also probably wait until the pre-order announcement to take down the stuff that's still in stock (Hammerers, Gyros etc.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 14 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: I would say the balance is squatting 80% new duardins 20% considering in the interview the design team hinted the Religious side of CoS and that we have rumours of just a Cogfort so far and it could be the faction scenery. I have been re-reading the interviews and I don't think the evidence for the idea that they have a bunch of the religious side of Cities ready to go is actually all that strong: Quote Sam – Miniatures Design Manager: Right from the beginning of the project, we knew we needed something to show the crazy mendicants and the religious madness of the Warhammer world. We had many wild ideas for zealots but knew we needed to do soldiery, so Pontifex Zenestra is where we added that special brand of Warhammer piousness. Seb: Everyone was keen to get that religious aspect of the Cities of Sigmar working, and we left a lot of open doors again with the miniature – the wheels everywhere, the bifold nature of the Matriarch herself and the skeleton at the back, even the people carrying her. They talk a bit about how they left themselves room to do cults and priests in the future, but it's not all that concrete. Given that we have that Cogfort leak and with Dwarves being part of Old World while Dark Elves are not, I think the next wave of Cities miniatures might be new and updated Ironweld stuff and Dwarves. The dwarves of cities have very few kits: Three characters, two unit kits and the gyrocopter. Cut the Cogsmith and that's 5 kits to update. That is within the realm of possibility, easily. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 13 minutes ago, Asbestress said: PLEASE HAVE NEW KITS PLEASE HAVE NEW KITS PLEASE HAVE NEW KITS In my mind this either means Cities wave 2 is either coming early next year or we'll lose duardin and aelves and just get a COGFORT and Devoted later. I desperately want it to be option 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmac Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Just now, Asbestress said: Guessing it will take some time for all of them to be marked. They'll also probably wait until the pre-order announcement to take down the stuff that's still in stock (Hammerers, Gyros etc.) Not that I'm advocating for it, but typically a model will only go into sold out online when it's actually sold out. So if there's still stock remaining for certain models it may take a little longer for them to go out of stock officially and it'll vary by region on the timing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 minute ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: I have been re-reading the interviews and I don't think the evidence for the idea that they have a bunch of the religious side of Cities ready to go is actually all that strong: They talk a bit about how they left themselves room to do cults and priests in the future, but it's not all that concrete. Given that we have that Cogfort leak and with Dwarves being part of Old World while Dark Elves are not, I think the next wave of Cities miniatures might be new and updated Ironweld stuff and Dwarves. The dwarves of cities have very few kits: Three characters, two unit kits and the gyrocopter. Cut the Cogsmith and that's 5 kits to update. That is within the realm of possibility, easily. But we have Pater Filium and his Brethren of the Bolt. Normally they test stuff in UW first, that's another hint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 minute ago, Ejecutor said: But we have Pater Filium and his Brethren of the Bolt. Normally they test stuff in UW first, that's another hint I don't feel the Underworlds to AoS pipeline is all that strong, to be honest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asbestress Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 4 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: I have been re-reading the interviews and I don't think the evidence for the idea that they have a bunch of the religious side of Cities ready to go is actually all that strong: They talk a bit about how they left themselves room to do cults and priests in the future, but it's not all that concrete. Given that we have that Cogfort leak and with Dwarves being part of Old World while Dark Elves are not, I think the next wave of Cities miniatures might be new and updated Ironweld stuff and Dwarves. The dwarves of cities have very few kits: Three characters, two unit kits and the gyrocopter. Cut the Cogsmith and that's 5 kits to update. That is within the realm of possibility, easily. Limiting a hypothetical wave 2 to 8 kits: Cogfort Ironweld Human Hero Dwarf Infantry Dwarf Ranged Gyrocopter Replacement/Dwarf Hero (might be too Kharadron-y to get redone) Dwarf Hero Flagellants Priest Making some of these dual kits could also help. We also have a bunch of currently pretty much useless Cults Unberogen decals on the transfer sheet, and we know from the Brethren of the Bolt that at least 2 of the decal types (Cult of the Wheel and the lightning-skull) belong to specific cults. IMHO it wouldn't be too far fetched to see a new flagellant replacement unit that uses those. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asbestress Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 minute ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: I don't feel the Underworlds to AoS pipeline is all that strong, to be honest. Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler New Ironjawz berserkers, Troggoths (and Gitz in general with Zarbag's Gitz), some Darkoath stuff and the first female Stormcast all came from Underworlds. Although I agree that not everything that appears in Underworlds is a forecast for new releases, there's a fair amount of stuff lining up for the Devoted warband to actually be a peek into the future (unlike the vast quantities of witch hunters we've gotten between the Ven Densts, Cursed City, Callis and Toll, and Hexbane's Hunters). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmac Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Just now, Asbestress said: Hide contents Hide contents Hide contents New Ironjawz berserkers, Troggoths (and Gitz in general with Zarbag's Gitz), some Darkoath stuff and the first female Stormcast all came from Underworlds. Although I agree that not everything that appears in Underworlds is a forecast for new releases, there's a fair amount of stuff lining up for the Devoted warband to actually be a peek into the future (unlike the vast quantities of witch hunters we've gotten between the Ven Densts, Cursed City, Callis and Toll, and Hexbane's Hunters). Don't forget Winged Squigs. The list of Underworld to mainline releases is massive though, I'm far too lazy to do an indepth comparison but it's endless. Besides, Underworlds is explicitly a testing ground for the designers and always has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrac Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Dont know whats going on now, but gonna use the chance to complain about how utterly bad is GW's new website 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthanolMuffins Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 I hope Underworlds doesnt go away, the models are fun and the game seems fun 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthanolMuffins Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 3 minutes ago, Garrac said: Dont know whats going on now, but gonna use the chance to complain about how utterly bad is GW's new website Its so bad like did they even have anyone check it over? It seems like the first pass and its missing a ton if QoL the old site had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthanolMuffins Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 48 minutes ago, Asbestress said: PLEASE HAVE NEW KITS PLEASE HAVE NEW KITS PLEASE HAVE NEW KITS In my mind this either means Cities wave 2 is either coming early next year or we'll lose duardin and aelves and just get a COGFORT and Devoted later. I desperately want it to be option 1. The new rules for CoS gives me hope option 1 will be the case 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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