Starfyre Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 minute ago, Tonhel said: Same here, Although imo if Chaos warriors have a 3+/3+. Blood Warriors should have it too. The increase to 3+ save is nice. That is very true about the 3+/3+, hadn't spotted that. I think they had a 3+ save anyway though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagard Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Faction pack = index? Do we know if the full rules will be revealed before the box release? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) Only 5 bloodtithe options. What a flavor fail. Plus BoK only gets 1 faction ability and lost demonic protection from shooting so that's fun. Did they forget to include the warscroll for the hexgorger skulls or is khornes prayer preview really "and you can summon invocations ooooooohhhhhhh" Bloodthirster looks good Bloodletters having the clanrat ability feels weird but at least it makes sense with the lore. Karanak let's flesh hounds (including himself) ignore the beast rule so why even put beast in his keywords? Blood warriors only don't seem nerfed because they're always bad. Nice to know selling your soul to the God of war makes you a worse fighter (chaos warrior 3+/3+) Edited June 21 by The Red King 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScionOfOssia Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 5 minutes ago, Starfyre said: What do you mean? Chaos Undivided has better stats in melee than the devotees of the Chaos God of Murder who are mainlining Chaos Steroids. Darkoath Marauders, regular people with minor Chaos buffs have the same statline besides Attacks as a Blood Warrior wielding a Goreaxe when they should probably have a 4/4/1/1 which is better than average Human statline and Chaos Warriors should be roughly equivalent to Blood Warriors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 FYI The Honest Wargamer is going through the whole 4th ed Core rulebook on stream. It will be a long process but at the end there should also be a condensed video on YouTube 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 4 minutes ago, Marcvs said: FYI The Honest Wargamer is going through the whole 4th ed Core rulebook on stream. It will be a long process but at the end there should also be a condensed video on YouTube 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Interview with 'Eavy Metal on how they painted the Skaven, similar to yesterdays on the Stormcast. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfyre Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 16 minutes ago, The Red King said: Only 5 bloodtithe options. What a flavor fail. Plus BoK only gets 1 faction ability and lost demonic protection from shooting so that's fun. Did they forget to include the warscroll for the hexgorger skulls or is khornes prayer preview really "and you can summon invocations ooooooohhhhhhh" Bloodthirster looks good Bloodletters having the clanrat ability feels weird but at least it makes sense with the lore. Karanak let's flesh hounds (including himself) ignore the beast rule so why even put beast in his keywords? Blood warriors only don't seem nerfed because they're always bad. Nice to know selling your soul to the God of war makes you a worse fighter (chaos warrior 3+/3+) The Daemons at least now have in-built ward saves which is better than the old rule protecting from Shooting. The Bloodletter rule likely replaces the banner and the other traits and rules that could bring them back. Blood warriors have more attacks than Chaos Warriors. Besides we're comparing against a Spearhead warscroll. But yeah should be a 3+ really. Hatred of Sorcery is a loss. Wonder if that'll come back as a rule or a formation ability in the full pack. They're largely the more flavourful Blood tithe abilities anyway IMHO. 17 minutes ago, ScionOfOssia said: Chaos Undivided has better stats in melee than the devotees of the Chaos God of Murder who are mainlining Chaos Steroids. Darkoath Marauders, regular people with minor Chaos buffs have the same statline besides Attacks as a Blood Warrior wielding a Goreaxe when they should probably have a 4/4/1/1 which is better than average Human statline and Chaos Warriors should be roughly equivalent to Blood Warriors. TBF they also have rend over the Darkoath Marauders, but take the point. v Chaos Warriors, we are comparing to a spearhead warscroll, but given Knights have a 3+ then stands to reason that warriors will as well. S2D does look strong from what we've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Quote The new edition of Warhammer Age of Sigmar is almost with us, and the massive launch box is available for pre-order in just over a week. Skaventide pits the Stormcast Eternals of the Hallowed Knights Stormhost against the vile Skaven. Among the Stormcast Eternals are members of the Ruination Chamber – veterans of many deaths who are on the cusp of losing themselves entirely. Do you think that in X years SCE could have a new bit of lore where Ruination just have a massive spike in deaths and/ have lost many members over time and they just remove stuff from the roster like the Prosecutors and replace it with something new? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfyre Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 5 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: Interview with 'Eavy Metal on how they painted the Skaven, similar to yesterdays on the Stormcast. These articles are always fantastic, it's great the depth that Max goes into what they're trying to achieve with the paint. Fair play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-knight77 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 9 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: Interview with 'Eavy Metal on how they painted the Skaven, similar to yesterdays on the Stormcast. Love the image showing off the six clans: Masterclan, Moulder. Verminous, Eshin, Skryer and Pesitlance Even if Eshin and pestilence are being shafted this wace it still reminind that they're still around and get their time soon Also just notice the clawlord has horns bursting out head it not a helm or anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-knight77 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 20 minutes ago, Marcvs said: FYI The Honest Wargamer is going through the whole 4th ed Core rulebook on stream. It will be a long process but at the end there should also be a condensed video on YouTube What time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldarion79 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Just now, Dragon-knight77 said: What time? Right now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonhel Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 minute ago, Eldarion79 said: Right now He means on youtube. It's not on youtube yet, but I expect as with FF, that it will be later today, maybe around 20:00 (CET) or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-knight77 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, Ejecutor said: Does Khorne have any other paint scheme? Joke but there actually some nice options like the Flayed blood splater whites or the murder fist blacks 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonhel Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 44 minutes ago, The Red King said: Only 5 bloodtithe options. What a flavor fail. Plus BoK only gets 1 faction ability and lost demonic protection from shooting so that's fun. Did they forget to include the warscroll for the hexgorger skulls or is khornes prayer preview really "and you can summon invocations ooooooohhhhhhh" Bloodthirster looks good Bloodletters having the clanrat ability feels weird but at least it makes sense with the lore. Karanak let's flesh hounds (including himself) ignore the beast rule so why even put beast in his keywords? Blood warriors only don't seem nerfed because they're always bad. Nice to know selling your soul to the God of war makes you a worse fighter (chaos warrior 3+/3+) I quite like this the BoK focus, I do think the Blood warriors should have a 3+/3+ in the same way as Chaos Warriors. Chaos Warriors with the Mark of Khorne (without knowing the points) are better than Blood Warriors. Which is a bit conflicting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldarion79 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 14 minutes ago, Tonhel said: He means on youtube. It's not on youtube yet, but I expect as with FF, that it will be later today, maybe around 20:00 (CET) or so. if he has finished the stream. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Sigmarite Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) 4 hours ago, Clan's Cynic said: Interview with 'Eavy Metal on how they painted the Skaven, similar to yesterdays on the Stormcast. These are painting techniques only the ´Eavy Metal team can do, because any painter on their own would go nuts if they had to, on their own, paint 40 clanrats to promotional material levels of painting. No wonder they kept it to 4-5 clanrats per painter. It would have been so tedious if they made a poor chap chain paint all 40 to studio level. Edited June 21 by The Lost Sigmarite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 41 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: Interview with 'Eavy Metal on how they painted the Skaven, similar to yesterdays on the Stormcast. I’d never noticed that the Clan Moulder icon looks something like a double helix. Fitting for the masters of mad biology. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfyre Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 7 minutes ago, The Lost Sigmarite said: These are painting techniques only the ´Eavy Metal team can do, because any painter on their own would go nuts if they had to on their own paint 40 clanrats to promotional material levels of painting. No wonder they kept it to 4-5 clanrats per painter. It would have been so tedious if they made a poor chap chain paint all 40 to studio level. Yeah, it's really impressive they had a team of 8 painters work on the 40 clan-rats, and they all look so consistent as a range. There's no obvious dips in quality or differences in style. At Mantic we used to take multiple photos of the same miniatures in different places and stitch them together in Photoshop 🥲 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonhel Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 5 minutes ago, Starfyre said: Yeah, it's really impressive they had a team of 8 painters work on the 40 clan-rats, and they all look so consistent as a range. There's no obvious dips in quality or differences in style. At Mantic we used to take multiple photos of the same miniatures in different places and stitch them together in Photoshop 🥲 8 professionals for 40 clanrats. That's some serious dedication. It's worldclass painting, but pure madness for a regular hobbyiest to achieve that level with a horde army Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Just now, Tonhel said: 8 professionals for 40 clanrats. That's some serious dedication. It's worldclass painting, but pure madness for a regular hobbyiest to achieve that level with a horde army Just a matter of patience, my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, Ejecutor said: But at least BS and BoC will receive some new lore. Hopefully it will explain why they vanish. I understand from a BoC or BS player pov is still super bad, but it is the bit I am most excited about in terms of indexes. The "new lore explaining why they vanished" is likely going to be the laziest phoned in kick in the groin GW can scrape off the bottom of their shoe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Misfire Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 6 minutes ago, The Red King said: The "new lore explaining why they vanished" is likely going to be the laziest phoned in kick in the groin GW can scrape off the bottom of their shoe. They all started wearing armour and became Ironjawz/They all found religion and became the marked beastmen in the Tzeentch and Slaanesh lists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitGas Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, Tonhel said: I quite like this the BoK focus, I do think the Blood warriors should have a 3+/3+ in the same way as Chaos Warriors. Chaos Warriors with the Mark of Khorne (without knowing the points) are better than Blood Warriors. Which is a bit conflicting. Yeah, this feels hella wrong. If they wanna depict Khornates as raging who can‘t fight well, then they need to up their dmg or something in return. Khorne Lords have always been tremendous fighters, so the basic warriors that follow this path should be capable - at least on the level of vanilla CWs - as well. And the Curseling too. That‘s the one proper human fighter we have in DoT and he‘s on 4+/4+ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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