Big Kim Woof-Woof Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 15 hours ago, MitGas said: I still pray to go- Tzeentch that we mono-god guys can use marked S2D units. I really wanted to use my new CW and chosen minis. 😇 I'm hoping like hell that we can.... but I feel the chances of it happening are incredibly slim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 So, it seems like the new edition's books are in people's hands now. There are already some Spearhead warscrolls out in the wild. Let's hope GW takes this as an incentive to put all the rules downloads up soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrindur Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Sprues&Brews said: Our deep dive content is now live over at www.spruesandbrews.com Full unboxing: https://spruesandbrews.com/2024/06/22/skaventide-unboxing-and-review-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-4th-edition/ So looking at the sprues in the order of the images it seems like the Lord-Terminos, Reclusians and the Knight-Questor are on a combined sprue so the Reclusians will very likely get a solo release with the other characters locked to this special sprue in the same way the combined Kruleboyz/Stormcast sprues from Dominion got turned into expensive webstore only sprues. The Lord-Veritant, the Grey Seer and the Warlock Engineer are on a detachable sprue so likely as expected part of the starter sets. Which makes it pretty likely the two Spearheads buildable from the contents will just be the highest tier starter set Everything else looks separate so ready for a solo release and likely extra multipart releases for any of them. Edited June 22 by Matrindur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrindur Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) double post Edited June 22 by Matrindur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 After reading the reviews I'm even more sure of my decision to stop playing AoS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrindur Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) triple post Edited June 22 by Matrindur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 53 minutes ago, Marcvs said: I am really not sure about this. Do you know if there's a point in the rules where they define who is using an ability? The SCE battle trait for instance says that the unit is the target, so it feels more as an ability used by the player Yes. There is an explanation that if you need to pick a unit to use that ability, then, it's that unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 53 minutes ago, Marcvs said: I am really not sure about this. Do you know if there's a point in the rules where they define who is using an ability? The SCE battle trait for instance says that the unit is the target, so it feels more as an ability used by the player Yes. There is an explanation that if you need to pick a unit to use that ability, then, it's that unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarakUrbaz Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 I screenshotted the most important part of Sprues and Brews video covering the core book. 8 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 37 minutes ago, BarakUrbaz said: I screenshotted the most important part of Sprues and Brews video covering the core book. Is that the BoC section? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Just now, Ejecutor said: Is that the BoC section? Chaos dwarf foreshadowing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asbestress Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 39 minutes ago, BarakUrbaz said: I screenshotted the most important part of Sprues and Brews video covering the core book. OHHH MYYY HAAASHHUUUTTTT. THEY ARE COMINGGG!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Beliman said: Yes. There is an explanation that if you need to pick a unit to use that ability, then, it's that unit. Yeah but but my point is that you are not picking that unit to *use* the ability. See the different formulation of the move ability (pick a unit "to use this ability") Edited June 22 by Marcvs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Marcvs said: Yeah but but my point is that you are not picking that unit to *use* the ability. See the different formulation of the move ability (pick a unit "to use this ability") Yeah, I can see that. Most abilitiies say to pick a unit but not to "use this ability", but they are clearly the ones that are using that ability. RAW vs RAI? Edited June 22 by Beliman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLight Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, Beliman said: Yes. There is an explanation that if you need to pick a unit to use that ability, then, it's that unit. That means the Ironjawz waaagh is usable once per character! Which makes me feel a lot more positive on the faction traits than otherwise. Edit: just seen the follow up discussion too. I will live in hope until we get confirmation one way or the other! Edited June 22 by ArcLight . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonhel Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 2 hours ago, Marcvs said: I am really not sure about this. Do you know if there's a point in the rules where they define who is using an ability? The SCE battle trait for instance says that the unit is the target, so it feels more as an ability used by the player I think Rob mentioned it in his youtube vid. Atleast I thought I heard something about it. But not sure, my brain is overloaded with the AoS info . Although I do think @Beliman interpretation is correct. 1 hour ago, michu said: After reading the reviews I'm even more sure of my decision to stop playing AoS. Which reviews? Is AoS 4 what I hoped that it would be. No. i.e they actual made customization even less compared with 3th. The opposite what I hoped for, but I do think our small group will have enjoyable evenings with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 2 minutes ago, Tonhel said: I think Rob mentioned it in his youtube vid. Atleast I thought I heard something about it. But not sure, my brain is overloaded with the AoS info . Although I do think @Beliman interpretation is correct. Which reviews? Is AoS 4 what I hoped that it would be. No. i.e they actual made customization even less compared with 3th. The opposite what I hoped for, but I do think our small group will have enjoyable evenings with it. Overall all the reviews I've seen are positive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged Red Lines Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 On 6/19/2024 at 9:05 AM, KingBrodd said: I was going to pick it up anyway but you just sold me on that novel!! I stopped short of endorsing the Darkoath book before, but now I'm close to finishing it, I would wholeheartedly recommend it. Especially to anyone who enjoyed Godeaters Son or Scourge of Fate. GW has done a sterling job recently of putting out books that offer a human face to chaos tribes. So much so, they're starting to feel like the protagonists, at least to me. Characters are well-rounded, full of flaws, vulnerabilities but also redeeming qualities. Thoroughly enjoyable read. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 20 minutes ago, ArcLight said: That means the Ironjawz waaagh is usable once per character! Which makes me feel a lot more positive on the faction traits than otherwise. After re reading it I am even more convinced that this is not the case. Pick a unit to be the target vs pick a unit to use this ability seems to mark a distinction. Plus, the waagh ability identifies the range as "ww 18" of the target " and not "we 18" of this unit" (rule 28.0 says that "this unit" is the unit using the ability). 29 minutes ago, Beliman said: Yeah, I can see that. Most abilitiies say to pick a unit but not to "use this ability", but they are clearly the ones that are using that ability. Fair counterpoint! I'll take a look Of course, we'll get a clarification very quickly after release so probably no point in digging deeper other than flexing our rules-muscles and get back in shape for a new edition 😅 Edited June 22 by Marcvs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 10 minutes ago, Jagged Red Lines said: I stopped short of endorsing the Darkoath book before, but now I'm close to finishing it, I would wholeheartedly recommend it. Especially to anyone who enjoyed Godeaters Son or Scourge of Fate. GW has done a sterling job recently of putting out books that offer a human face to chaos tribes. So much so, they're starting to feel like the protagonists, at least to me. Characters are well-rounded, full of flaws, vulnerabilities but also redeeming qualities. Thoroughly enjoyable read. In terms of numbers they are the protagonists indeed. They outnumber order by far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-knight77 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 hour ago, BarakUrbaz said: I screenshotted the most important part of Sprues and Brews video covering the core book. oh for those worry that it not going to be the same: Demon engines already been confirmed in lore 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragest Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 51 minutes ago, Beliman said: Yeah, I can see that. Most abilitiies say to pick a unit but not to "use this ability", but they are clearly the ones that are using that ability. RAW vs RAI? There is a designers note on the right in the page about once per battles that says that if the ability doesn't explicitly tell you that one unit is using the ability or is in the warscroll, is being used by the player. That's why waagh is a “hard” once per battle and dok's command ability is a “soft” once per battle (so per unit per battle) 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morathi is my Goddess Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Marcvs said: After re reading it I am even more convinced that this is not the case. Pick a unit to be the target vs pick a unit to use this ability seems to mark a distinction. Plus, the waagh ability identifies the range as "ww 18" of the target " and not "we 18" of this unit" (rule 28.0 says that "this unit" is the unit using the ability). Fair counterpoint! I'll take a look Of course, we'll get a clarification very quickly after release so probably no point in digging deeper other than flexing our rules-muscles and get back in shape for a new edition 😅 Edit: better explanation above from Ragest Edited June 22 by Morathi is my Goddess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericEdgyName Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 2 hours ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: So, it seems like the new edition's books are in people's hands now. There are already some Spearhead warscrolls out in the wild. Let's hope GW takes this as an incentive to put all the rules downloads up soon. Please delete this if it's not allowed, but please if anyone finds spearhead stuff for Tzeentch or Nighthaunt, send it my way (I have rules for SBGL and DoK if anyone is curious) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragest Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 The core rules are pretty solid, the only thing that needs a clarification is the companion rule, to know wich abilities affect them and wich doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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