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KO just remain a tricky thing to get right, I think, it's a difficult challenge to find the ideal mid-point between high mobility shooting nightmare and peashooter sitting ducks, they've never really managed to hit the sweetshop, imo.  But it also seems like they were deliberately focusing on a handful of factions for more in-depth tweaking, and mostly cost adjustments for the rest.

Also, grumblingly, I've been playing FEC since 4th launched and they're basically fine!  They play perfectly normal, fun warhammer, it's hardly their problem that the top-performers are buzzing around with weird, rule-bending gimmicks or whatever!  ( Though it would be nice if Ushoran wasn't mandatory in every list, at least he looks sweet!)

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5 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Are they making emphasis because of them going live soon?

Not especially, they usually advertise something for Warhammer TV on wednesday.

The Hammer and Bolter episode not being like the same style than the previous one is the real news, to me.

TBH, I liked Blacktalon series but it's not like it's great plot. Interrogator was more elaborated, to me. But the pace at which real content of interest is released is not worth taking a yearly subscription. Just one month, you've seen it all.

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5 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Genuinely excited for a new season of Blacktalon. It was the first Warhammer show that I really enjoyed. 

The first faq is good. They didn't nerf anything too hard but they altered quite a few things that were OP and helped some of the weaker factions. I think they'll need to nerf Lumineth, Nighthaunt and manifestations again but doing it gradually is the right approach. 

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13 minutes ago, Lucentia said:

KO just remain a tricky thing to get right, I think, it's a difficult challenge to find the ideal mid-point between high mobility shooting nightmare and peashooter sitting ducks, they've never really managed to hit the sweetshop, imo.

It's simole, don't even try that.

Give us melee tools (they are at that point with assault boat and Crit/MW to skywardens).

But that's not enough, we need tools to deal with manifestations, prayers, magic and terrain. And this tools doesn't have anything to do with ranged profiles.

That's our main problem (appart from buying with 320+ points our Battle Traits).

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1 hour ago, Sarouan said:

Not especially, they usually advertise something for Warhammer TV on wednesday.

The Hammer and Bolter episode not being like the same style than the previous one is the real news, to me.

TBH, I liked Blacktalon series but it's not like it's great plot. Interrogator was more elaborated, to me. But the pace at which real content of interest is released is not worth taking a yearly subscription. Just one month, you've seen it all.

It will be interesting to see what's the plot for Blacktalon 2.

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I feel like I'm missing something. In the article it says that they

'made Malevolent Maelstrom’s Morbid Detonation mandatory when it reaches six maelstrom points.' 

but it doesn't look like they actually changed anything. If they wanted to make Morbid Detonation mandatory they would have needed to change it to a Passive ability right? Pretty sure I have the updated document since I can see the casting changes and the changes to Purple Sun and Ravenaks, just no change to the Maelstrom. 

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5 minutes ago, Grimrock said:

I feel like I'm missing something. In the article it says that they

'made Malevolent Maelstrom’s Morbid Detonation mandatory when it reaches six maelstrom points.' 

but it doesn't look like they actually changed anything. If they wanted to make Morbid Detonation mandatory they would have needed to change it to a Passive ability right? Pretty sure I have the updated document since I can see the casting changes and the changes to Purple Sun and Ravenaks, just no change to the Maelstrom. 

I did not check the old wording again, but in the update document it now says something along the lines of "You must (and can only) use this ability when the Maelstrom has 6 maelstrom points". That definitely seems like it would be mandatory.

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5 minutes ago, Grimrock said:

I feel like I'm missing something. In the article it says that they

'made Malevolent Maelstrom’s Morbid Detonation mandatory when it reaches six maelstrom points.' 

but it doesn't look like they actually changed anything. If they wanted to make Morbid Detonation mandatory they would have needed to change it to a Passive ability right? Pretty sure I have the updated document since I can see the casting changes and the changes to Purple Sun and Ravenaks, just no change to the Maelstrom. 

it's this change

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3 minutes ago, Marcvs said:

it's this change

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Ah, ok so it's in the Battle Profile & Rules update, but they missed it from the actual Endless Spells document. I guess they'll have to re-upload that one at some point. It's weird that they've put it in the Declare part as you typically have the option to declare or not. Would have been cleaner to just change that ability to a End of Any Turn (Passive) ability IMO. 

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4 hours ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

On the one hand, Vokmortian looks really strong for a small hero.

On the other hand, he has a big dumb scary face on his chest that makes him look like a bozo.

Truly a dilemma not even King Salomon himself could solve.

You just have to embrace the 80s cartoon style toyetic goofiness of the faction.  Vokmortion feels like a callback to the Visionaries in particular:

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3d hologram-like face on his chest, one hand holding an elaborate staff, the other holding up his unique weapon (to the extent that Vokmortian weilds contracts as a weapon). I'd almost be inclined to call it an intentional reference with how much of the bonereapers line in general feels like it's deliberately invoking the aesthetic of toys from this era, what with boney soldiers resembling the 'skeleton warriors' more than any previous warhammer undead, and monsters & war machines that would feel right at home on the battlefields of Eternia.

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55 minutes ago, Sception said:

You just have to embrace the 80s cartoon style toyetic goofiness of the faction.  Vokmortion feels like a callback to the Visionaries in particular:

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3d hologram-like face on his chest, one hand holding an elaborate staff, the other holding up his unique weapon (to the extent that Vokmortian weilds contracts as a weapon). I'd almost be inclined to call it an intentional reference with how much of the bonereapers line in general feels like it's deliberately invoking the aesthetic of toys from this era, what with boney soldiers resembling the 'skeleton warriors' more than any previous warhammer undead, and monsters & war machines that would feel right at home on the battlefields of Eternia.

Haha yes. Visionaries is always what I think of when I see him.

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6 hours ago, Vaellas said:

Now that I think about it one model that could be really cool to see get an update looking at Chaos considering how it can be used over so many different armies and systems is Chaos spawn with lots of customisation items to really get several look different.

It'd be awesome to see but customisation seems to be in short order these days :(

That heyday seems long past. We can live in hope but would expect one model with one different head. 

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7 hours ago, Vaellas said:

Now that I think about it one model that could be really cool to see get an update looking at Chaos considering how it can be used over so many different armies and systems is Chaos spawn with lots of customisation items to really get several look different.

IMO that's one mini that we will see refreshed with the rumoured 40k demons refresh.

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17 hours ago, Ejecutor said:

It will be interesting to see what's the plot for Blacktalon 2.

It would be funny if it's the exact same plot than the first, since

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she forgets the truth when it's revealed to her because she's reforged, and the shadow clearly tells her it's not the first time and she usually chooses the same option every time :P

But I guess it will be mostly about action. Could be good by focusing more on her friends' past instead.

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6 minutes ago, Sarouan said:

It would be funny if it's the exact same plot than the first, since

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she forgets the truth when it's revealed to her because she's reforged, and the shadow clearly tells her it's not the first time and she usually chooses the same option every time :P

But I guess it will be mostly about action. Could be good by focusing more on her friends' past instead.

What about introducing other characters like Callis and Toll or Hamilcar? It could be a nice way to reuse them from Hammer and Bolter. Or introduce any other brand new (in the series) character to stay this season with Neave.

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