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For comparison and reference to “ big pretenders “ those were the 40K release after new edition starter armies ( Marines and Tyranids)

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Adeptus Mechanicus : 1 hero 

Necrons : 1 hero 

Dark angels : 1 hero + 1 unit

Orks : 1 hero

Tau empire : Kroot armyset+ individual release

Chaos marines: 2 heroes

 

So 1 hero + codex is still a common release in 40K and it will be also in AoS : no matter the production capacity. 

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I still have, use and love my Mordheim starter set scenery (and the house in the WFB 6th ed. starer set), but in this day and age, GW should really stay away from cardboard and MDF* terrain : they have set the bar too high with plastic kits since Cities of Death in 40k (4th ed.) and the Imperial Manor etc. in WFB (7th ed.).

* What do those letters exactly stand for, btw ?

8 hours ago, GloomkingWortwazi said:

Probably the resolve for this RE:
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Tragic, another potential Pestigors RE excluded ...

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9 minutes ago, cyrus said:

For comparison and reference to “ big pretenders “ those were the 40K release after new edition starter armies ( Marines and Tyranids)

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Adeptus Mechanicus : 1 hero 

Necrons : 1 hero 

Dark angels : 1 hero + 1 unit

Orks : 1 hero

Tau empire : Kroot armyset+ individual release

Chaos marines: 2 heroes

 

So 1 hero + codex is still a common release in 40K and it will be also in AoS : no matter the production capacity. 

Necrons were 3 hero

Edit: Dark Angels were 2 Hero + 2 unit + upgrade sprue

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14 minutes ago, HorticulusTGA said:

* What do those letters exactly stand for, btw ?

Medium-density fibreboard, its, like, reconstituted wood pulp, basically.

As someone whose club space is mostly stuck using a bunch of MDF terrain, I can't say I'm a big fan at all, unless you're looking to very quickly throw together a bunch of L-shaped ruins for a 40k tournament or something.  Unless you're willing to put in a bunch of additional work with texturing and cutting, you mostly wind up stuck with a bunch of low detail, identical structures.  The main advantage is it can make for good-sized sturdy pieces (and obviously it's cheaper than sculpted plastic alternatives) but it's not something I'd ever really want to fill my board with if possible.

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8 hours ago, Hollow said:

I still think that high-quality, high-density, coloured printed card scenery kits would be an amazing avenue for GW to explore. https://battlesystems.co.uk/ does some great kits. 

Erm... seems pretty clear what I was talking about. 

1 hour ago, xAres said:

You said some of MDF terrain is great but gave an example of cardboard terrain. People who don't see the difference could be mislead.

Not if they read my post. 

Anyways.... 

I think for GW the best option would be for them to go for combo kits. Printed card with plastic similar to the OG Necromunda Terrain. 

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13 hours ago, Dragon-knight77 said:

so was holding off till i get info on the Emperor children rumors but since this is a AOS forum I'll add those the next reveal show rake up

AOS
    

  • Narrative campaign
  • Orruk Warclans with a spearhead (possibly Ironjawz)
  •  Gloomspite gitz next
    • Gitmob army box
  • Soulblight Gravelord afterwards which will have an army box of Deathrattle skeleton range (not the basic skeletons) along with Zombie Dragon by Whitefang back me up 
  • Chaos dwarfs 2025 various including HonestWargammer & Whitefang
    • Chaos Dwarves design was "too similar to the TOW pitch" by Honest wargamer
    • Will have a cog aesthetic by Honest wargamer  
  •  CoS getting a Cogfort by Whitefangbackmeup
  • Lumineth getting their own phoenix guard by Whitefang
  • Seraphon getting Temple guard through rumor engines (possibly for underworld)
  •  Wanderers, swifthawk, Greenskinz are get to show up once again in one way by Whitefang 


UNDERWORLD

  • Roadmap soon
  • 3 heralds said to bring more stuff in the future
    •  Chaos dwarfs with other races like Hobgrots
    • Kerthusa's Daughter of Khaine warband
    • Gitmob/Kurnothi/Order of Azyr 
  • A warband that goes "rawr" (Seraphon ?)
  • A warband with a potbelly (it Nurgle demon)
  • A chaos warband
  • A Destruction warband

WARCRY

  • Next year a new edition

40K

  • New Red gobbo Christmas model with a snowman (rumor engine with the branch is from there)
  • Krieg wave
    • A Krieg commissar
    • A Krieg captain on horse
    • Heavy weapons squad
    • Krieg command squad
    •  Krieg Death Rider 
    • WW1 artillery
  • Eldar wave
    • Updated Asurman
    • Updated Fuegan with new fire dragons 
    • New Pheonix lord for the Warp spider and new warp spider 
    • Updated Barroth with new swooping hawks
    • Updated Prince Yriel
    • Eldar Corsairs (some will have jump-pack) & Corsair Warseer
    • Eldar Viper vehicles (other vehicles redesign)
  • Imperial Knights
    •  New Armiger
  • Emperor Children (2025)
    •  Plastic Daemon Prince Fulgrim
    • Lucius the eternal 
    • Noise Marines
  • Space wolves
    •  Logan Grimnar but he no longer has his sled 
  • Codex Daemons of Chaos are gone
  • Orkz big bad for 11 edition in 2 years

HH 

  • Plastic Fellblade & Glaive tank
  • New edition (book printed and ready) MK II armor Iron warrior vs Salamanders theme with saturnine terminators, Saturnine dreadnoaught and new weapon team
  •  Plastic Mechnicum knights 
  • There talk about moving the setting to the Scouring series in the future with new Mk 7 armor  

KT 

  •  Grey knights
  • World eaters ( it's Khorne theme so assuming it World eater)
  •  Exodites (this one is extreme far fetch)
  • new KT Starter Set: Space Marines (Space Marines Heroes Series 4) vs Death Guard (Space Marines Heroes Series 3) and MDF terrain by Elarin

Necromunda

  • More new Malstraine Genestealers
  • Updating old gangs 

TOW

  • Empire
    • New Captain
    • New Hedgewitch
    • New Warmachine
    • FW Mannan’s blades returns
    • No new cannon or knights
  • High elves
    •  Tyrion and Teclis are the special characters
    • New nautical character
  • Beastmen are getting the returning Peytron, Gorebull & Fimir
    • Morgur is special character
  • Grand Cathay coming long time but coming collaborated by Whitefang

if any of our rumor mongers @Whitefang or @Whitefang back me up want to dispel or add in this list go ahead but yeah next event in in novemeber

"a character will be lugging his "potbelly" around"

I still see more a Big guy like an Ogor than a Nurgle warband

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1 hour ago, cyrus said:

For comparison and reference to “ big pretenders “ those were the 40K release after new edition starter armies ( Marines and Tyranids)

IMG_1842.jpeg.ff0165448911da42633d144be8a617c2.jpeg

Adeptus Mechanicus : 1 hero 

Necrons : 1 hero 

Dark angels : 1 hero + 1 unit

Orks : 1 hero

Tau empire : Kroot armyset+ individual release

Chaos marines: 2 heroes

 

So 1 hero + codex is still a common release in 40K and it will be also in AoS : no matter the production capacity. 

I think Necrons got three heroes? It was something more than one hero definitely.

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1 hour ago, HorticulusTGA said:

I still have, use and love my Mordheim starter set scenery (and the house in the WFB 6th ed. starer set), but in this day and age, GW should really stay away from cardboard and MDF* terrain : they have set the bar too high with plastic kits since Cities of Death in 40k (4th ed.) and the Imperial Manor etc. in WFB (7th ed.).

* What do those letters exactly stand for, btw ?

Tragic, another potential Pestigors RE excluded ...

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Just now, Aeryenn said:

Isn't there any cheap, good quality fantasy terrain from 3rd party companies made of plastic instead of cardboard or MDF?

The closest thing I know is Rampart. I remember when their Kickstarter came around it was like, "Wow. So much plastic for that little price?":

Eternal Cathedral #1

Eternal Cathedral #2

Eternal Cathedral #6

Their modular system is cool, and they have different aesthetics. My only problem is that there's not a fantasy set that suits what I would like. 

We have something Seraphon like:

Kazumi Temple #4

Right now the boxes above are 49 pounds or 61 €, and they come from Poland. 

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22 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

The closest thing I know is Rampart. I remember when their Kickstarter came around it was like, "Wow. So much plastic for that little price?":

Eternal Cathedral #1

Eternal Cathedral #2

Eternal Cathedral #6

Their modular system is cool, and they have different aesthetics. My only problem is that there's not a fantasy set that suits what I would like. 

We have something Seraphon like:

Kazumi Temple #4

Right now the boxes above are 49 pounds or 61 €, and they come from Poland. 

@Aeryenn Those are made by Archon who also have Dungeons & Lasers line, which is stuff made for DnD. Some of the terrain sets can also be used for wargaming, like the Elven Forest one.

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39 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

The closest thing I know is Rampart. I remember when their Kickstarter came around it was like, "Wow. So much plastic for that little price?":

Eternal Cathedral #1

Eternal Cathedral #2

Eternal Cathedral #6

Their modular system is cool, and they have different aesthetics. My only problem is that there's not a fantasy set that suits what I would like. 

We have something Seraphon like:

Kazumi Temple #4

Right now the boxes above are 49 pounds or 61 €, and they come from Poland. 

I am ashamed that I learn from a foreign forum that my countrymen are making such cool terrain pieces. Thanks!

However, the offer is quite modest for now.

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9 minutes ago, PraetorDragoon said:

@Aeryenn Those are made by Archon who also have Dungeons & Lasers line, which is stuff made for DnD. Some of the terrain sets can also be used for wargaming, like the Elven Forest one.

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True. In Dungeons and Lasers they have more stuff with fantasy aesthetic:

Sorcerer's Spire #1

Grand Stronghold #1

They even has a new KS with a boat:

Dungeons & Lasers VII: Porthaven by Archon Studio - Gamefound

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It could work, but it is noticeable it is aimed for D&D. That's why I prefer Rampart.

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50 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:



Right now the boxes above are 49 pounds or 61 €, and they come from Poland. 

Nice, those should be quite accessible for me to get hold of then.

16 minutes ago, Aeryenn said:

I am ashamed that I learn from a foreign forum that my countrymen are making such cool terrain pieces. Thanks!

However, the offer is quite modest for now.

There seems to be quite a lot of Polish people making stuff for wargames these days! The local tabletop scene here in Wroclaw seems pretty active across a lot of different games.

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1 hour ago, Ejecutor said:

True. In Dungeons and Lasers they have more stuff with fantasy aesthetic:

Sorcerer's Spire #1

Grand Stronghold #1

They even has a new KS with a boat:

Dungeons & Lasers VII: Porthaven by Archon Studio - Gamefound

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It could work, but it is noticeable it is aimed for D&D. That's why I prefer Rampart.

I have my eye on Porthaven from now on. Really original and interesting project other than more ruins or strongholds of sorts.

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1 hour ago, Acrozatarim said:

Nice, those should be quite accessible for me to get hold of then.

There seems to be quite a lot of Polish people making stuff for wargames these days! The local tabletop scene here in Wroclaw seems pretty active across a lot of different games.

They send over the EU without a problem at all. I don't know outside, but Black Magic Craft (from Canada) made a video when the KS was active or just ended.

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13 hours ago, Dragon-knight77 said:

So that Red gobbo christmas model i think it might have Grombrindal on it as well

here the tease

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Good!! Quite tired of all the Christmas minisbeing so 40K focused.

12 hours ago, GloomkingWortwazi said:

Probably the resolve for this RE:
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Left hand side of the silhouette has a branch arm/hand and the drawing of the snowman shows it as young pine or juniper needles which it kinda looks like. Also seems to have a cold tone paint wise.

Excellent catch mate!!

5 hours ago, Sahrial said:

As much as we’ve all hyped up Ogors on this thread, and it’s clear we want them real bad, the lack of a rumor monger endorsement has definitely kept me from getting too excited. I do wish we could get a more reliable wink-nudge than “HWG/Rob says it makes sense”, to add them to this list.

Unrelated to AoS- are the mechanicum knights a new independent rumor or a leftover from that wishlist/fake set last year that got really popular?

I really hope we get some solid rumours soon. They are the last range that has 95% of their models be holdovers from WHFB now that SBGL, COS, Seraphon and Skaven have been updated, my only fear isnt that they wont be refreshed rather when. I really dont want to wait another 3-6 years.

2 hours ago, Ejecutor said:

True. In Dungeons and Lasers they have more stuff with fantasy aesthetic:

Sorcerer's Spire #1

Grand Stronghold #1

They even has a new KS with a boat:

Dungeons & Lasers VII: Porthaven by Archon Studio - Gamefound

3a3a8d29-3d11-4ec8-8e8c-9f425053b166.jpg

It could work, but it is noticeable it is aimed for D&D. That's why I prefer Rampart.

Ima need that Ocean Troll...

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5 minutes ago, Hollow said:

It might be cool to have an "Other Manufacturers" thread for scenery and proxies from places that could be used for AoS, but aren't from Games workshop. Especially when it comes to scenery, 3d printing etc 

Yep. I tend to follow those 3D sculptors that I find out about and make stuff inspired by the AoS universe.

My top 3 are dark fantastic mills, 3dhexes and tiredworldstudio:

Dark Fantastic Mills — Kickstarter

3DHexes — Kickstarter

Tired World Studio — Kickstarter

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I'm using some pieces form tabletop world altburg range and the quality Is very High for a reasonable price

https://tabletop-world.com/product-category/altburg-28-32mm-scale/

Maybe a bit low to the ground medieval/fantasy for AOS but they are very good on the right tablet

They have a kick starter ongoing with a farmstead, I'wondering how It would look with some squig in the chicken scoop 

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tabletopworld/tabletop-worlds-realm-of-altburg-farmstead

 

 

 

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