Hollow Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure that GW-Online was reported to have overtaken GW-Retail one or two financial reports ago. Again, I am just speculating, but I would have thought they have an Online Warehouse which puts in for runs of a few hundred to a few thousand of certain kits as and when. Obviously, the press machines are running at capacity and so to put in for a run of sprues will mean sitting in the queue. Then there will be product lines marked "Do Not Reprint" as there is no point in printing off 500, or 1000 of something if they will only sell a couple of hundred before a repackage, rebrand, repackage, or removal. I doubt they are doing "as needed" runs. Once a model has paid for its R+D, Mold, and Manufacture, further print runs will bring the cost considerably. These kits must be still sold in some kind of numbers. GW is pulling in hundreds of millions of pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Grimm Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Hello guys, bit of an off topic question for the people here that are familiar with the WHFB model ranges from back in the day, but also with the Horus Heresy line of models from Forge World and the way they are marketed and sold nowadays. So can you share your thoughts on the possible composition of new model ranges for the armies we are about to get for TOW, having in mind the current sets that are produced for HH? So for example for Bretonnia do you think we will get single characters like the Paladin and BSB in resin and the bigger models like Lord on Hippogryph and/or units like the Grail Knights in plastic or they will most likely lean towards full resin release of the new models? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sir Grimm said: Hello guys, bit of an off topic question for the people here that are familiar with the WHFB model ranges from back in the day, but also with the Horus Heresy line of models from Forge World and the way they are marketed and sold nowadays. So can you share your thoughts on the possible composition of new model ranges for the armies we are about to get for TOW, having in mind the current sets that are produced for HH? So for example for Bretonnia do you think we will get single characters like the Paladin and BSB in resin and the bigger models like Lord on Hippogryph and/or units like the Grail Knights in plastic or they will most likely lean towards full resin release of the new models? I suspect resin for all characters, plastic for troops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Grimm Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, zilberfrid said: I suspect resin for all characters, plastic for troops. So you think resin for the larger models like monsters and warmachines as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Hollow said: Correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure that GW-Online was reported to have overtaken GW-Retail one or two financial reports ago. Again, I am just speculating, but I would have thought they have an Online Warehouse which puts in for runs of a few hundred to a few thousand of certain kits as and when. Obviously, the press machines are running at capacity and so to put in for a run of sprues will mean sitting in the queue. Then there will be product lines marked "Do Not Reprint" as there is no point in printing off 500, or 1000 of something if they will only sell a couple of hundred before a repackage, rebrand, repackage, or removal. I doubt they are doing "as needed" runs. Once a model has paid for its R+D, Mold, and Manufacture, further print runs will bring the cost considerably. These kits must be still sold in some kind of numbers. GW is pulling in hundreds of millions of pounds. Maybe because COVID happen and shut down everything but retail bounce back in the last few report over online which decrease because of strong retail recovery. but point would stand that kit being sold on retail are more profitable then the ones they designate as online only as they just selling their existing stocks in inventory that may have lavash for who knows how long or how many runs ago. Edited July 12, 2023 by novakai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EonChao Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 For those is the USA who are interested in it (or deals on models in individual issues), Fauxhammer is reporting that the Age of Sigmar: Stormbringer magazine will be starting in the US this fall/autumn. We have a so far accurate leak of the models in each issue of Stormbringer so if you’re interested in Stormcast, Orruks, Gloomspite, Sylvaneth or Kharadron might be worth taking a look at it https://www.fauxhammer.com/news/announcement-warhammer-stormbringer-coming-to-the-usa/?fbclid=IwAR2AxG-oKFFN4kWKMhgLzyfddokjQwAuJRJm_oUFhCLWKlUApc0jwXVCHls_aem_AY4ZlFgsTbp1C0ltJZ2-7KtGxkbSDKg6jQGum4gx2M9v_ARjnufFLFa4qUAykZb1tB8&utm_content=cmp-true 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 43 minutes ago, EonChao said: For those is the USA who are interested in it (or deals on models in individual issues), Fauxhammer is reporting that the Age of Sigmar: Stormbringer magazine will be starting in the US this fall/autumn. We have a so far accurate leak of the models in each issue of Stormbringer so if you’re interested in Stormcast, Orruks, Gloomspite, Sylvaneth or Kharadron might be worth taking a look at it https://www.fauxhammer.com/news/announcement-warhammer-stormbringer-coming-to-the-usa/?fbclid=IwAR2AxG-oKFFN4kWKMhgLzyfddokjQwAuJRJm_oUFhCLWKlUApc0jwXVCHls_aem_AY4ZlFgsTbp1C0ltJZ2-7KtGxkbSDKg6jQGum4gx2M9v_ARjnufFLFa4qUAykZb1tB8&utm_content=cmp-true What about those of us in the frozen wastes of Andto... I mean Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthaunt Noob Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 The 54 warscrolls could potentially include an upcoming warcry unit too. Perhaps that's where we'll get a flagellants replacement similar to how Seraphon got their chameleon skinks? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Sir Grimm said: So you think resin for the larger models like monsters and warmachines as well? Yes, I think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still-young Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 11 hours ago, mojojojo101 said: I'm not sure I can put it into words exactly but I think I'd be pretty dissapointed if Malerion's forces just ended up being AoS Dark Elves. I feel like the nature of Ulgu opens up some really interesting space to do something truly wierd and extremely AoS-ey (for lack of a better term). What you do with the Dark Elf factions in Cities, keeping them would be the preference, preferably with nicer models, particualrly for Executioners whoare just worse looking models than the metal versions they replaced. I’m right with you there. I want the Ulgu Aelves to be their own thing, like the Idoneth were. I’ll be disappointed if it just ends up being like Warhammer Fantasy Dark Elves, especially if the old models end up there. I want them to be weird. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 How do we know it's 54 Warscrolls for Cities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Sir Grimm said: Hello guys, bit of an off topic question for the people here that are familiar with the WHFB model ranges from back in the day, but also with the Horus Heresy line of models from Forge World and the way they are marketed and sold nowadays. So can you share your thoughts on the possible composition of new model ranges for the armies we are about to get for TOW, having in mind the current sets that are produced for HH? So for example for Bretonnia do you think we will get single characters like the Paladin and BSB in resin and the bigger models like Lord on Hippogryph and/or units like the Grail Knights in plastic or they will most likely lean towards full resin release of the new models? My bet is that everything new that is heroe-related or special scultps like unique monsters are going to be resin. I assume that new/ updated units are going to be plastic, but only a few of them for each army. Btw, I can see a a few heroes in plastic if there is going to be a new big box set and if we are really lucky, maybe a new centerpiece in plastic every few months. Of course, with the return of old miniatures and probably old big box sets too. Some in plastic, some in resin and maybe a few in metal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Beliman said: My bet is that everything new that is heroe-related or special scultps like unique monsters are going to be resin. I assume that new/ updated units are going to be plastic, but only a few of them for each army. Btw, I can see a a few heroes in plastic if there is going to be a new big box set and if we are really lucky, maybe a new centerpiece in plastic every few months. Of course, with the return of old miniatures and probably old big box sets too. Some in plastic, some in resin and maybe a few in metal. I would expect metal models to go the way of the dodo, that's a whole different bit of factory and supply chain to maintain for only a few models. Also looking at you, Skryre Acolytes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, zilberfrid said: I would expect metal models to go the way of the dodo, that's a whole different bit of factory and supply chain to maintain for only a few models. Also looking at you, Skryre Acolytes. Makes it even more weird that they announced that TOW will feature resin, plastic and metal models. Maybe they decided to phase out the universally disliked finecast instead of metal first? There are certainly some smaller miniature companies that still use metal, so it's not like it's a completely outdated technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: Makes it even more weird that they announced that TOW will feature resin, plastic and metal models. Maybe they decided to phase out the universally disliked finecast instead of metal first? There are certainly some smaller miniature companies that still use metal, so it's not like it's a completely outdated technology. You are right, they did say that! I'm not privy to GW's financials, but I'd say maintaining a supply chain just for a few of their oldest sculpts (assuming new sculpts will either be plastic or FW resin) does not make much sense, but then GW/FW isn't the best at resin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemeta Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 hours ago, EntMan said: How do we know it's 54 Warscrolls for Cities? preview of the launch box, because there is 54 warscroll cards in it. There’s also a special edition of the Battletome: Cities of Sigmar with cover art unique to this army set, and a deck of warscroll cards for all 54 units they can field. What makes up the rest of the roster? You’ll have to wait and see… https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/01/warhammer-preview-the-cities-of-sigmar-muster-for-the-dawnbringer-crusades/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draznak Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 hours ago, EntMan said: How do we know it's 54 Warscrolls for Cities? It's in the article of not warhammer 40k online preview with army set and Tahlia Vedra reveals : Quote There’s also a special edition of the Battletome: Cities of Sigmar with cover art unique to this army set, and a deck of warscroll cards for all 54 units they can field. What makes up the rest of the roster? You’ll have to wait and see… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EonChao Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 6 hours ago, Neverchosen said: What about those of us in the frozen wastes of Andto... I mean Canada. Imperium came to Canada at the same time as the US so hopefully Stormbringer will be the same 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boingrot Bouncer Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 To bad that Stormbringer magazine cost so much to get from UK to Sweden that it makes it cheaper to buy the kits. Since I love to paint a model or two from different factions now and then it would be a instabuy if I could get it at something that looks like the UK price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) Confirmation of what existing CoS stuff is leaving the range. Article also touches the "25% of your force may be from X Order army" for certain Cities remaining. TLDR All High Elves and Wood Elves plus most Empire. All of the Dark Elf and Dwarf stuff looks to be staying though. Empire Freeguild General On Foot Freeguild Crossbowmen/Handgunners Freeguild Guard Freeguild Pistoliers/Outriders Freeguild Greatswords Demigryph Knights Hellblaster Volleygun/Helstorm Rocket Battery Flamespyre Phoenix/Frostheart Phoenix Phoenix Guard Shadow Warriors/Sisters of Avalorn Noble Prince Eternal Guard/Wyldwood Rangers Sisters of the Thorn/Wild Riders Worth noting if you go on the webstore all the above are now LCTB (although some will probably just get reboxed for TOW), including the Anvilgard Start Collecting. Stuff that's staying: All Duardin (inc. Ironweld) All Dark Elves Flagellants Battle Wizards Celestial Hurricanum/Luminark of Hysh Freeguild General on Griffon/Battlemage of Griffon Steam Tank Edited July 13, 2023 by Clan's Cynic 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asbestress Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Bit surprised to see the Griffon and Gyrocopters staying (not that I'm complaining, I love me some Dispossessed 😛) I really think this means the release of the launch set is quite close now, with them having revealed it and now us getting this warehouse clearing. Also... NEW HAMMERHAL COLOURED STUDIO STEAM TANK IN THE BACKGROUND! I wish the Irondrakes got a new paintjob but I'm just glad that we'll probably see updated pictures for the Steam Tank on the webstore and Battletome. And now I'm hoping that we'll get to see a studio Steam Tank in Greywater colours! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asbestress Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Also, new artillery officially confirmed as being revealed quite soon! We’ve now seen a new General, and new infantry, cavalry, gunners, and even an ogor, while more updated units – including artillery – are on their way to a preview article near you. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: Confirmation of what existing CoS stuff is leaving the range. TLDR Most Empire, High Elves and Wood Elves. All of the Dark Elf and Dwarf stuff looks to be staying though. Empire Freeguild General Freeguild Crossbowmen/Handgunners Freeguild Guard Freeguild Pistoliers/Outriders Freeguild Greatswords Demigryph Knights Hellblaster Volleygun/Helstorm Rocket Battery Flamespyre Phoenix/Frostheart Phoenix Phoenix Guard Shadow Warriors/Sisters of Avalorn Noble Prince Eternal Guard/Wyldwood Rangers Sisters of the Thorn/Wild Riders Worth noting if you go on the webstore these items are now LCTB (although some will probably just get reboxed for TOW). Glad to finally get clarification, RIP Shadow Warriors/Sisters of Avalorn you were my favourite of the city Aelves. I do like that it settles that if I go through with my city plans that I can theme my force around a port city with Duardin roots, populated by humans, that hire mercenary aelven pirates, with a Stormkeep in the centre of the city. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: Confirmation of what existing CoS stuff is leaving the range. TLDR All High Elves and Wood Elves plus most Empire. All of the Dark Elf and Dwarf stuff looks to be staying though. Empire Freeguild General On Foot Freeguild Crossbowmen/Handgunners Freeguild Guard Freeguild Pistoliers/Outriders Freeguild Greatswords Demigryph Knights Hellblaster Volleygun/Helstorm Rocket Battery Flamespyre Phoenix/Frostheart Phoenix Phoenix Guard Shadow Warriors/Sisters of Avalorn Noble Prince Eternal Guard/Wyldwood Rangers Sisters of the Thorn/Wild Riders Worth noting if you go on the webstore all the above are now LCTB (although some will probably just get reboxed for TOW), including the Anvilgard Start Collecting. Stuff that's staying: All Duardin (inc. Ironweld) All Dark Elves Flagellants Battle Wizards Celestial Hurricanum/Luminark of Hysh Freeguild General on Griffon/Battlemage of Griffon Steam Tank An unxpectedly pro-customer move by GW. I fully expected them to keep quiet about the squatted kits until the starter box drops. Slightly weird choice to prominently feature Shadow Warriors in the article that announces their removal: EDIT: Kinda glad my boy Karl Franz is staying. Still a super cool model. Edited July 13, 2023 by Neil Arthur Hotep 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draznak Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Wait a second... that means flagellants are staying ?! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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