Peacaf Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, MitGas said: Khorne‘s standards dropped a lot in recent Warhammer lore then…😭 a Chaos God of angry losers. But „maaagic isn‘t honorable“. Bah. Khorne could branch off to Grand Alliance Death, some of those at least died AFTER a fight! Valkia's ascension occurs in WHF, over a decade ago. And Khorgos had to get the skull of 5 champions and he gets Gavriel's which is supposedly the 5th, what's the problem? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragest Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 There are too many factions that desperatly need an expansion/renovation that I can’t see room for Kharadron to receive something tuis edition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Just now, Ragest said: There are too many factions that desperatly need an expansion/renovation that I can’t see room for Kharadron to receive something tuis edition I am with you there. I see KO having maybe a hero and scenery and wrapping until the 5th ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Just now, Ragest said: There are too many factions that desperatly need an expansion/renovation that I can’t see room for Kharadron to receive something tuis edition I can't see any faction that should recieve a new wave of miniatures before Fyreslayers or Kharadrons Overlords. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragest Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Beliman said: I can't see any faction that should recieve a new wave of miniatures before Fyreslayers or Kharadrons Overlords. Idk, dok, fs, tzeentch, ogor, obr or kruleboyz have a very bad army composition. Kharadron have little number of minis, but every unit fills a role and have an archetype (well, maybe KO don’t have cavarly per se, but their battle traits work like that) Edited May 28 by Ragest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 minute ago, Ragest said: Kharadron have little number of minis, but every unit fills a role and have an archetype (well, maybe KO don’t have cavarly per se, but their battle traits work like that) Roles are tied to rules, rewrite the rules to fill the role that is missing. I'm talking about new models. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarff Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 8 minutes ago, Beliman said: I can't see any faction that should recieve a new wave of miniatures before Fyreslayers or Kharadrons Overlords. I'd just add IDK to that list. The rest of the armies are quite recent or already quite expansive. Some armies need refreshes of kits, but FS, KO and IDK really need new kits as additions to their armies. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frodorowski Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: Another potentially AoSy/CoS Rumour Engine. I found this reference to an Inquisitor model in another site, seems 100% match Edited May 28 by Frodorowski 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarakUrbaz Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ragest said: Idk, dok, tzeentch, ogor, obr or kruleboyz have a very bad army composition. Kharadron have little number of minis, but every unit fills a role and have an archetype (well, maybe KO don’t have cavarly per se, but their battle traits work like that) "Every unit fills a role and has an archetype" is absurdly vague and can be applied to a lot of things. IDK have melee front line, cavalry, archers, monsters, and heroes of the wizard, foot melee and mounted varieties. Ogors have a lot of variety; they have chaff infantry, monstrous infantry, elite monstrous infantry, ranged options, artillery, cavalry, multiple monsters. They aren't lacking in anything, its just that their models are starting to look stanky. Tzeentch has a pretty large amount of variety if you're looking at the army as a whole instead of just singling out the mortal half or daemon half. Edited May 28 by BarakUrbaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asbestress Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 minute ago, Frodorowski said: I found this reference to an Inquisitor model in another site, seems 100% match That's 100% the inspiration. Lines up with Imperial Agents being rumoured as the next 40k Codex too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Beliman said: I can't see any faction that should recieve a new wave of miniatures before Fyreslayers or Kharadrons Overlords. Idoneth, Ogors and DoK. Idoneth just before KO. Edited May 28 by Ejecutor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragest Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 minute ago, Beliman said: Roles are tied to rules, rewrite the rules to fill the role that is missing. I'm talking about new models. Nah, sorry. You can't come and say now that namartis are the elite of IDK with that model representation and all the lore behind, same with witch aelves, or do the opposite in OBR saying now stalkers are the chaff. Everyone wants new minis all the time, but there are armies that need a fix in their roster, there are armies with fantasy kits that have to go out the game, there are armies that receive tons of minis just because popularity, and then we have Kharadron, that have a nice represented roster, all new minis and is not very popular. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 7 minutes ago, Frodorowski said: I found this reference to an Inquisitor model in another site, seems 100% match Here you go. 40k for that one. Especially knowing there are rumours about them being released soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 18 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: I am with you there. I see KO having maybe a hero and scenery and wrapping until the 5th ed. If they don't solve the problem with the scenary then It is better no more faction terrains 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragest Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Just now, Nezzhil said: If they don't solve the problem with the scenary then It is better no more faction terrains They had the chance with the indexes and decided to push for sceneries even more, so I think this edition we will see more of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frodorowski Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 minute ago, Nezzhil said: If they don't solve the problem with the scenary then It is better no more faction terrains Which problem with scenary are you referring? the suppy one from China manufaturers or anything else? At this point, with more than half of the armies having faction terrain that costs 0 points, I'd rather have it for everybody than keep it as it is now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 3 hours ago, Ejecutor said: In one of the first posts after the Skaventide preview, it was mentioned as well that the Grypgh-Stalker is a gift from Morrda as well. It is nice that we start seeing some minor death deities, and indeed it will match what Whitefang said. Maybe we see more Morrda/ other minor goods related stuff during this edition. Really wish they will come out with a "Ionus like" ruination chamber unit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 22 minutes ago, Ragest said: Nah, sorry. You can't come and say now that namartis are the elite of IDK with that model representation and all the lore behind, same with witch aelves, or do the opposite in OBR saying now stalkers are the chaff. Everyone wants new minis all the time, but there are armies that need a fix in their roster, there are armies with fantasy kits that have to go out the game, there are armies that receive tons of minis just because popularity, and then we have Kharadron, that have a nice represented roster, all new minis and is not very popular. I know. But KOs and Fyreslayers are part of the first ones that are in need of new miniatures. 24 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: Idoneth, Ogors and DoK. Idoneth just before KO. Disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 minute ago, Beliman said: I know. But KOs and Fyreslayers are part of the first ones that are in need of new miniatures. Disagree Ogors are gonna be updated for sure and they are gonna have one of the bigger updates of the edition. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xil Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 minute ago, Beliman said: I know. But KOs and Fyreslayers are part of the first ones that are in need of new miniatures. Disagree What does KO need? I mean, the designspace for them is limited. Their 'cavalary' are the ballon dudes and small gunhaulers. It would be weird for them to be on horses. Ogors really need new models. Those are butt ugly. IDK and DoK need units to help them have more diverse builds and not just play the same things over and over again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 8 minutes ago, cyrus said: Really wish they will come out with a "Ionus like" ruination chamber unit. Oh. So Ionus shares that feral skull design with the new Veritant. I didn't know it! Do we know what is that referencing to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 33 minutes ago, Frodorowski said: I found this reference to an Inquisitor model in another site, seems 100% match I have that mini. I miss inquisitor. I'd love to see gw try something in a larger scale again, especially if it's for AoS. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarff Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 9 minutes ago, Nezzhil said: Ogors are gonna be updated for sure and they are gonna have one of the bigger updates of the edition. Do you know the other factions that will be updated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScionOfOssia Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 36 minutes ago, Ragest said: Idk, dok, fs, tzeentch, ogor, obr or kruleboyz have a very bad army composition. Kharadron have little number of minis, but every unit fills a role and have an archetype (well, maybe KO don’t have cavarly per se, but their battle traits work like that) Nah, I’m vetoing your bit here- OBR, Tzeentch, DoK and KBZ are all behind KO in terms of “Armies In Need Of New Units”. KO has a tiny amount of models, with overlap between several somehow, and haven’t gotten much of anything since 1st Edition. Only FS and IDK can match them. 1 minute ago, Xil said: What does KO need? I mean, the designspace for them is limited. Their 'cavalary' are the ballon dudes and small gunhaulers. It would be weird for them to be on horses. Ogors really need new models. Those are butt ugly. IDK and DoK need units to help them have more diverse builds and not just play the same things over and over again. KO need actual line infantry, or heavier infantry than the Arkanauts who occupy a hybrid space without actually having dedicated melee forces that don’t shoot. It wouldn’t even be hard to justify their existence. They’ve got 15 units that aren’t from Underworlds total, there’s definitely room to make them not just 2 flavors of shooty infantry, 2 flavors of balloon infantry, 3 flavors of ships, and then some heroes. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Nezzhil said: Ogors are gonna be updated for sure and they are gonna have one of the bigger updates of the edition. Maybe. But that doesn't mean that KOs or Fyrslayers doesn't need new waves. 13 minutes ago, Xil said: What does KO need? I mean, the designspace for them is limited. Their 'cavalary' are the ballon dudes and small gunhaulers. It would be weird for them to be on horses. A lot. Elite-melee units, duelist heroes, defensive foot-troops, new ships (dedicated transports, offensive skyvessel, etc...), and any type of specialist unit that is not a "shoot" or "shoot-more" (megalith miners, corsairs, etc...). Btw, balloon boys are just shock troops, more close to light cavalry than a heavy cavalry. 13 minutes ago, Xil said: IDK and DoK need units to help them have more diverse builds and not just play the same things over and over again. Like KOs and Fyrslayers then. And remember that FS were released in 2016... Edited May 28 by Beliman 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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