The Rumour Thread

[BarakUrbaz]

12 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Ha. Interesting that they are confirming it already.

Also, it is interesting that we can see in better quality the map from DB 6:

Higher quality look at the Chaos Dwarf icon, we can see that its actually a Duardin head with horns (and what looks like chains connecting the horns to the beard?) when I previously thought it was just a bull head. 

Edited June 10 by BarakUrbaz

[Chikout]

Full Skaven or Stormcast reveal on August 3rd then. 

[Snarff]

I can't wait! The box looks extremely good, I'm almost tempted to pick it up as somebody who plays neither army. I hope they continue to go strong with the narrative throughout the edition this time, keep the momentum of Dawnbringers going and tie in the new releases with the lore progressing.

[Hollow]

7 hours ago, Nezzhil said:

The Orc&Goblin Battalion was a failure, and only a few kits are selling well. The sales are okay, but not that outstanding to force to move other things to give them space.

Curious, as to how you "know" this? Or it is just how you "feel" about it? Because it doesn't align at all with what I have read/heard elsewhere. 

[Ejecutor]

28 minutes ago, ScionOfOssia said:

Well, its been nice knowing ya, Hel Crown, but there’s like, no universe in which the Skaven don’t take this. 

Ha, maybe GW makes one of their "weird moves" and SCE end up winning?

[Ejecutor]

19 minutes ago, Magnusaur said:

Why sad? Necromunda is an awesome game and it kind of needs a bit of a boost to get some traction. It's a specialist game, so you won't ever see the kind of mass-hype for it like the core staples. Also, Hive Secundus is coming up, which is one of the only major things we know are on the horizon in addition to AOS 4th, of course.

And now, with the Hel Crown announcement, we know that we'll be seeing the second Stormcast/Skaven wave as part of that campaign, so yeah, the next few Mondays are probably Necromondays. 

So this kind of removes the chance of seeing a preview with the follow up wave in July, as the 40k equivalent took 3 weeks, IIRC.

[ScionOfOssia]

1 minute ago, Ejecutor said:

Ha, maybe GW makes one of their "weird moves" and SCE end up winning?

Would be an interesting change of pace for them to actually win something for once, since they’ve been getting pummeled since 2nd began. 

[Ejecutor]

12 minutes ago, ScionOfOssia said:

Would be an interesting change of pace for them to actually win something for once, since they’ve been getting pummeled since 2nd began. 

Skaven win and Sigmar punish them closing another Chamber.

Edited June 10 by Ejecutor

[Kempak]

Suppose it's time for a new Gotrek book soon, as we have had a skavenslayer my guess is Verminslayer wonder if the priest will outlast the aelf much.

[Garrac]

Lets ****** go and win this ******

[Tonhel]

1 hour ago, Hollow said:

Curious, as to how you "know" this? Or it is just how you "feel" about it? Because it doesn't align at all with what I have read/heard elsewhere. 

I have no clue from where he has his info. I think it is more of a case that dwarfs weren't planned for june. What @Nezzhil is saying (I think) is that O&G isn't selling well enough to move other releases around to make space for an earlier dwarf release? That seems bizar, why would GW do that? It doesn't make any sense logistics wise. If dwarfs were planned for month X, why would they try to move it to an earlier release slot? The sad truth is that it seems Dwarfs were never planned for a june release.

Tomb Kings and Bretonnia had an excellent start.

The only new stuff for O&G are the resin Black Orc Bigboss and the Arcane journal. All the other things are old stuff that are re-released. The new shaman still isn't released... .

I really like Warhammer and bought for O&G, the Arcane journal and new Black Orc Bigboss, but why would I pay hundreds of euro for decades old stuff, certainly when time wasn't gently for those sculpts.

The prices are insane, it's already difficult to justify the prices for AoS mini's even when those mini's are amazing!

In their infinite wisdom GW also thought that TOW needed a price hike of 5-10% for those old mini's. Insane.

It seems that TOW as a game is played a lot, but that lots of people are using alternative mini's, 3d printed mini's or their old collections. Even with Bretonnia it's still impossible to buy everything you need to play. Mounted yeomen, grail knights, questing knights, grail pelgrims, trebuchet are still out of stock.

I have a good 3d printer, so why would ever buy those decade old GW mini's for imo high prices, when I can print stuff like this? I am subscribed to Avatars of War and I pay a monthly fee of 2,99 euro. Which gives me awesome O&G mini's. Nah, I love TOW as a ruleset, but GW's greed is nefast for it.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 10 by Tonhel

[Dragon-knight77]

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One such prize is Hel Crown, a fortress-city built around a realmgate to the Realm of Chaos, which was until recently occupied by raving worshippers of Khorne. Conquered at a great cost of lives, its realmgate permanently closed through extreme measures, Hel Crown had been in Sigmarite hands for less than three years when the Vermindoom struck.

nice little lore on the city. If the skaven get a hold on this they will let demon to join in all the fun

1 hour ago, BarakUrbaz said:

Higher quality look at the Chaos Dwarf icon, we can see that its actually a Duardin head with horns (and what looks like chains connecting the horns to the beard?) when I previously thought it was just a bull head. 

kind of funny that there just this one Forge city wedge in between the Fyrslayer right in front of THE capital of the heir of Grimnir

[Ejecutor]

5 minutes ago, Tonhel said:

I have no clue from where he has his info. I think it is more of a case that dwarfs weren't planned for june. What @Nezzhil is saying (I think) is that O&G isn't selling well enough to move other releases around to make space for an earlier dwarf release? That seems bizar, why would GW do that? It doesn't make any sense logistical wise. If dwarfs were planned for month X, why would they try to move it to an earlier release slot? The sad truth is that it seems Dwarfs were never planned for a june release.

Tomb Kings and Bretonnia had an excellent start. The only new stuff are the resin Black Orc Bigboss and the Arcane journal. All the other things are old stuff that are re-released.

I really like Warhammer and bought for O&G, the Arcane journal and new Black Orc Bigboss, but why would I pay hundreds of euro for decades old stuff, certainly when time wasn't gently for those sculpts.

The prices are insane, it's already difficult to justify the prices for AoS mini's even when those mini's are amazing!

In their infinite wisdom GW also thought that TOW needed a price hike of 5-10% for those old mini's. Insane.

It seems that TOW as a game is played a lot, but that lots of people are using alternative mini's, 3d printed mini's or their old collections. Even with Bretonnia it's still impossible to buy everything you need to play. Mounted yeomen, grail knights, questing knights, grail pelgrims, trebuchet are still out of stock.

I have a good 3d printer, so why would ever buy those decade old GW mini's for imo high prices, when I can print stuff like this? I am subscribed to Avatars of War and I pay a monthly fee of 2,99 euro. Which gives me awesome O&G mini's. Nah, I love TOW as a ruleset, but GW's greed is nefast for it.

 

 

 

 

 

More than moving stuff around, taking advantage of an unexpected gap, IMO.

[Rachmani]

1 hour ago, Ejecutor said:

That bell is new, isn't it?

Will be their faction terrain.

[Dragon-knight77]

BTW anyone think we'll get city fight rules coming. The map of Hel Crown pretty detail. (Also art i found)

[Ejecutor]

11 minutes ago, Rachmani said:

Will be their faction terrain.

I was thinking the same, so I opened the website and maybe it is just their endless spells with some conversion:

Edited June 10 by Ejecutor

[Ejecutor]

Just now, Dragon-knight77 said:

BTW anyone think we'll get city fight rules coming. The map of Hel Crown pretty detail. (Also art i found)

Yeah, this looks like a pretty solid intro for the new Warcry edition:
 

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Hel Crown – once a Chaos stronghold and captured by the forces of Order at great cost – sits on the precipice of ruin.

Sited at the heart of the Galvian Atoll, but a stone’s throw from the epicentre of the Skavenblight’s eruption into Aqshy, the Skaven are bent on capturing it as they plot the total subjugation of the Realm of Fire.

Securing it may be the Stormcast Eternals’ only chance to stem the Skaven invasion.

Now, the power to save Hel Crown – or cast it to ruin – is in your hands.

 

[Acrozatarim]

Skaven already have Gnawholes as mandatory faction terrain. I can't imagine they'd get a second terrain piece too.

[Preppikoma]

18 minutes ago, Acrozatarim said:

Skaven already have Gnawholes as mandatory faction terrain. I can't imagine they'd get a second terrain piece too.

FWIW, Ogor Mawtribes have 2 distinct terrain pieces (Great Mawpot; Mawpit), and Seraphon have 2 aesthetically differing kits for the Realmshaper Engine (regular and ruined). The second entries in both cases were introduced via Warcry, so a similar treatment via a potential Skaven-related Warcry setting is not that far-fetched.

[Tonhel]

30 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

More than moving stuff around, taking advantage of an unexpected gap, IMO.

Lol, you can't be serious. A unexpected gap? 😄

[Ejecutor]

1 minute ago, Tonhel said:

Lol, you can't be serious. A unexpected gap? 😄

Yeah. Something gets delayed due to China, for example, they have to fill in, but if sales are not the best, they pick something else rather than Dawis. That's how I interpreted it.

[Mutton]

Was hoping the Blood Rites table would be more interesting, but overall I like the update to DoK. Dedicated role for SoS as dodge tanks. Khinerai with 2 health finally. Morathi keeps her iconic heart of iron. No more ranged mortals. I'm happy they're leaning more into the glass cannon archetype. I really want to see Blood Sisters.

[Tonhel]

3 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Yeah. Something gets delayed due to China, for example, they have to fill in, but if sales are not the best, they pick something else rather than Dawis. That's how I interpreted it.

GW is a huge company with lots of stores worldwide. I don't think logictics wise it's possible to do that in a reasonable amount of time.

[dmorley21]

3 hours ago, ScionOfOssia said:

Can confirm- At every LGS around here I’ve been to, the grand total of moved Old World models is 0. The scene around here is deader than the hopes of Kragnos be relevant during 3rd Edition. 

This just isn’t true. The launch sales surpassed expectations. Orcs & Goblins underperformed. Almost all sizable US conventions have added TOW. It’s safe to say it’s doing as well, if not better than GW’s expectations at this point. The lack of new models will hurt additional releases I think though. 

2 hours ago, Vagard said:

I am curious to see what's the % of necromunda players among all warhammer players compared to the % of monday mini related to necromunda. 

I have the feeling that nearly half of monday mini are from this game, it's sad

Necromunda has a pretty big scene for me locally in the state of Michigan in the US. A lot of people I know only play it and a few shops have custom boards for it that look awesome. 

2 hours ago, ScionOfOssia said:

Well, it’s been nice knowing ya, Hel Crown, but there’s like, no universe in which the Skaven don’t take this. 

Stormcast will get points for any Order win I think. 

8 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Yeah. Something gets delayed due to China, for example, they have to fill in, but if sales are not the best, they pick something else rather than Dawis. That's how I interpreted it.

That’s just not how it works. Source: worked a bit in logistics for a large company.

[Asbestress]

59 minutes ago, Dragon-knight77 said:

kind of funny that there just this one Forge city wedge in between the Fyrslayer right in front of THE capital of the heir of Grimnir

As of current lore, one of the main founders of AoS Chorfs was the youngest original heir of the Vostarg lodge (Hashut's unnamed prophet), so it makes at least a little bit of sense.