Ejecutor Posted Sunday at 09:32 AM Share Posted Sunday at 09:32 AM Btw, bad news guys. Apparently all the Underworlds bands (and I mean ALL) have been removed from the indexes. This gives more credit, IMO, to the rumours about them wanting to separate sales from different games/ studios, and even worse, about the rumours of UW disappearing if the sales are not good. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarff Posted Sunday at 09:39 AM Share Posted Sunday at 09:39 AM 6 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: Btw, bad news guys. Apparently all the Underworlds bands (and I mean ALL) have been removed from the indexes. This gives more credit, IMO, to the rumours about them wanting to separate sales from different games/ studios, and even worse, about the rumours of UW disappearing if the sales are not good. That rumour about UW disappearing was paired with a lot of other questionable-at-best rumours right? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemeta Posted Sunday at 09:39 AM Share Posted Sunday at 09:39 AM good point is we can use them as alternate miniatures for our units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted Sunday at 09:43 AM Share Posted Sunday at 09:43 AM 2 minutes ago, Freemeta said: good point is we can use them as alternate miniatures for our units Yeah, and collectors like me will always buy them, but the sales will be lower for sure, IMO. I hope it doesn't disappear, even if sales go low, as it is such a nice open gate for creativity and exploration. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted Sunday at 09:49 AM Share Posted Sunday at 09:49 AM 16 hours ago, Asbestress said: Another 4chan "leak", courtesy of some guy in a FB group I'm in. If I had a Cities wave for every fake list that had one... Hide contents Sup GW is trying to catch up on some stuff that was intended for AoS 3rd right now, so the releases will be a bit heavier than usual. Expect more mini waves than single mini releases. Basically all of the Stormcast and Skaven stuff is already out there, so after that we’ll have: Warclans and Nighthaunt will be the first BTs in Fall • Orruk Warclans is still one Battletome. Ironjawz Spearhead is coming. Only new mini is a Hobgrot Chieftain • Nighthaunt will have a Harridan Warder After those, we’ll have Idoneth as this year’s Christmas announcement, with: • Akhelian High-Lochian • Akhelian Knights • Shoalherd • Endless Spells And Soulblight following after with: • Wight King’s Court • Grave Guard • Corpse Cart • Endless Spells Idoneth are supposed to be coming early Winter and Soulblight February-March Spring will bring the first „bigger” release of the edition with Cities of Sigmar, with: • Freeguild Marshal on Gryph- • Freeguild Bombardier-Major • Botanite Apothecary • Lector Unberogen • Devoted Acolytes • Outstrider Cogfort • Dispossessed Gearwalker • Dispossessed Clan-Tinker • Dispossessed Ironclads • Dispossessed Drakegunners • Highscryer Outpost • Endless Spells First Chaos Dwarf teaser on April 1st Late Spring will have: Seraphon: • Temple Guard • Endless Spells Slaves to Darkness: • Manticore • Chaos Lord • Chaos Sorcerer Oh my god. hahahaha It is one of the worst fake leaks I had even read. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarff Posted Sunday at 10:16 AM Share Posted Sunday at 10:16 AM 16 minutes ago, Nezzhil said: Oh my god. hahahaha It is one of the worst fake leaks I had even read. It feels like a wishlist of the most common things people are asking for. And I absolutely CANNOT imagine a wave that big for CoS this fast after they got their last one. That's a 12-kit expansion. Also CoS endless spells is not something I'm expecting. CoS seems like a perfect candidate to keep using the 'generic' endless spells with how customizable and 'your dudes' the army is supposed to be. Releasing ANOTHER huge CoS wave when their last wave was already bigger than some other armies, while at the same time only giving Kruleboyz 1 hero and Idoneth 3 kits would feel REALLY bad. Kruleboyz is a fully separate army now so they should be getting a proper expansion, and IDK has not had a real expansion since they were introduced in 1st. Not even to mention more kits for Seraphon and StD, who also both had huge focus in 3rd. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted Sunday at 10:20 AM Share Posted Sunday at 10:20 AM 2 minutes ago, Snarff said: It feels like a wishlist of the most common things people are asking for. And I absolutely CANNOT imagine a wave that big for CoS this fast after they got their last one. That's a 12-kit expansion. Also CoS endless spells is not something I'm expecting. CoS seems like a perfect candidate to keep using the 'generic' endless spells with how customizable and 'your dudes' the army is supposed to be. Releasing ANOTHER huge CoS wave when their last wave was already bigger than some other armies, while at the same time only giving Kruleboyz 1 hero and Idoneth 3 kits would feel REALLY bad. Kruleboyz is a fully separate army now so they should be getting a proper expansion, and IDK has not had a real expansion since they were introduced in 1st. Not even to mention more kits for Seraphon and StD, who also both had huge focus in 3rd. The only case where I see such a big wave happening would be if they were massive sales success, which I am not fully sure about. As I still see army boxes for sale around. If they were such a big hit, then they could see a LRL treatment getting two big waves one next after the other in a short period of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarff Posted Sunday at 10:24 AM Share Posted Sunday at 10:24 AM 2 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: The only case where I see such a big wave happening would be if they were massive sales success They can't respond to sales that fast. If there's another wave coming, the minis would have been designed more than a year ago already. LRL in 2 waves also had to be planned like that (though covid probably messed the plans up quite a bit there). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethebee Posted Sunday at 10:38 AM Share Posted Sunday at 10:38 AM 12 minutes ago, Snarff said: They can't respond to sales that fast. If there's another wave coming, the minis would have been designed more than a year ago already. LRL in 2 waves also had to be planned like that (though covid probably messed the plans up quite a bit there). LRL wasn't mean to be two waves, covid made it into two. that's the whole reason why it got two battletomes (or the 1st with the optional expansion in BR: Teclis). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PraetorDragoon Posted Sunday at 10:59 AM Share Posted Sunday at 10:59 AM 1 hour ago, Ejecutor said: Btw, bad news guys. Apparently all the Underworlds bands (and I mean ALL) have been removed from the indexes. This gives more credit, IMO, to the rumours about them wanting to separate sales from different games/ studios, and even worse, about the rumours of UW disappearing if the sales are not good. It really doesn't surprise me that Underworlds warbands are going to be legends only. Ruleswise they occupy an awkward spot in the battletome, especially with their general availability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunbag Posted Sunday at 11:14 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:14 AM (edited) Kruleboyz spell lore include mystic shield , It is one of the few armies than can stack +1 save easly Looks like the monster focused formation gives companion weapons crit (2 hits) Looks like pebble might be a 5+ ward for one phase rather than just one enemy shooting phase Monsta Killaz still 3 attacks 4/3/-1/1 with now anti monster (rend) Skumdrekk in deployment phase gives a hobgrot unit within 3” of it crit (mortals) now killaboss on vulcha got the old ogor monster damage on charge : Roll dice equal to charge roll, each 4+ is mortal Edited Sunday at 11:19 AM by Grunbag 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amenephis Posted Sunday at 11:16 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:16 AM 1 hour ago, Ejecutor said: Btw, bad news guys. Apparently all the Underworlds bands (and I mean ALL) have been removed from the indexes. This gives more credit, IMO, to the rumours about them wanting to separate sales from different games/ studios, and even worse, about the rumours of UW disappearing if the sales are not good. What about Warcry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmorley21 Posted Sunday at 11:24 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:24 AM 7 minutes ago, Amenephis said: What about Warcry? All the stuff that was not announced as cuts is still there. The new Sylvaneth and OBR Warcry units are in there as well. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Kim Woof-Woof Posted Sunday at 11:39 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:39 AM 2 hours ago, Ejecutor said: Btw, bad news guys. Apparently all the Underworlds bands (and I mean ALL) have been removed from the indexes. This gives more credit, IMO, to the rumours about them wanting to separate sales from different games/ studios, and even worse, about the rumours of UW disappearing if the sales are not good. Utterly unsurprising. Especially because I'm one-third of the way through painting the Thricefold Discord. But it doesn't really matter. They're just gorgeous models to have. And, as has been said, they can easily 'counts as' for other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amenephis Posted Sunday at 11:39 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:39 AM 15 minutes ago, dmorley21 said: All the stuff that was not announced as cuts is still there. The new Sylvaneth and OBR Warcry units are in there as well. Oh yeah, I forgot all about those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted Sunday at 11:49 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:49 AM If I understood correctly the legended Stormcast are straight away separated from the rest of SCE (a different index), making them a different army. Of course this only matters for a year but it's still not great imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amenephis Posted Sunday at 11:50 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:50 AM Just now, Marcvs said: If I understood correctly the legended Stormcast are straight away separated from the rest of SCE (a different index), making them a different army. Of course this only matters for a year but it's still not great imho. GW flat-out said in no uncertain terms that they are getting a separate "book", insofar as the downloads are concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted Sunday at 11:55 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:55 AM 4 minutes ago, Amenephis said: GW flat-out said in no uncertain terms that they are getting a separate "book", insofar as the downloads are concerned. Yes you're right, I went back to check the article. I just thought they would still be under the same allegiance (i.e. army) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted Sunday at 11:56 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:56 AM Warcry Second Edition warbands ARE AoS units. It is not the same as Underworlds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amenephis Posted Sunday at 12:01 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:01 PM 6 minutes ago, Marcvs said: Yes you're right, I went back to check the article. I just thought they would still be under the same allegiance (i.e. army) All it takes is a single throwaway line of rules text to accomplish that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted Sunday at 12:24 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:24 PM 19 minutes ago, Amenephis said: All it takes is a single throwaway line of rules text to accomplish that. It is not like it is hard to do. The reason they don't do it is because it goes against their aims, which is to phase out those models. Integrating them with the other Stormcast would be counter productive to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted Sunday at 12:29 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:29 PM 40 minutes ago, Marcvs said: If I understood correctly the legended Stormcast are straight away separated from the rest of SCE (a different index), making them a different army. Of course this only matters for a year but it's still not great imho. Yeah. Sacrosanct has its own index. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus Posted Sunday at 01:14 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:14 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, Nezzhil said: Oh my god. hahahaha It is one of the worst fake leaks I had even read. Yes , we already know that at least 9 kits are coming for Skaven as second wave and probably 7-8 kits for Stormcast ruination chamber based on post Domionion release. Orruk warclans are probably one of first battletome because it’s the oldest one together with SCE . CoS second wave is coming for sure but that list seem way to big !! Chorfs are coming for sure and We all know from Rob THW/Whitefang ! After 24hrs from preorder Skaventide is not sold out : was it expected? Edited Sunday at 01:15 PM by cyrus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amenephis Posted Sunday at 01:21 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:21 PM 6 minutes ago, cyrus said: Orruk warclans are probably one of first battletome because it’s the oldest one together with SCE . Well, this means absolutely nothing; if it did, then the release order would essentially never change. GW does not care in the slightest how old their products are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted Sunday at 01:30 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:30 PM What do we expect for today's preorder? Another small week to leave Skaventide its time to shine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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