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1 minute ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

I see a spear or banner pole, then a bag, then a cape or other piece of cloth.

It looks like the area below the bag has been cut out of the image? Could this be a guy sitting on a horse with the horse removed in post?

Yeah. The pic looks like a weird photoshop.

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1 minute ago, Asbestress said:

Sadly probably not Cities IMHO.

No CoS unit has a weapon/tool with a wrapped hilt like that, The only book in the new range is the one carried by the Soul Shepherd, which if purely leather bound with decorative patterns etched into the cover, and there aren't really any arrow patterns anywhere in any of the new kits.

The metal bit at the bottom of the unidentified rod is the only thing that is similar to Cities stuff, but it's still pretty generic.

Overall, I'd give it a 2/10 chance to be new Flagellants.

But...

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Not exactly the same arrow pattern, but it reminded me to this:

Freeguild Marshal and Relic Envoy

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5 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Not exactly the same arrow pattern, but it reminded me to this:

Freeguild Marshal and Relic Envoy

The difference in style of the arrow decoration actually makes me think it's not Cities. Cities have a very baroque look to their trim and decorations. The straight arrow doesn't really, fit with them.

Could this be our first hint at a Chaos Dwarf model?

Or, failing that, a 40k thing?

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1 minute ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

The difference in style of the arrow decoration actually makes me think it's not Cities. Cities have a very baroque look to their trim and decorations. The straight arrow doesn't really, fit with them.

Could this be our first hint at a Chaos Dwarf model?

Or, failing that, a 40k thing?

Maybe the religious side is less ornate to reflect in some way that religious sentiment of not getting pegged to mundane things? But yeah, I have the feeling it is one of those that point you in the wrong direction, I would go for 40k.

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19 minutes ago, PraetorDragoon said:

Don't forget that despite having no crossover (in the index at least) and being two seperate factions the Orcs... still have to share a book. 

So they can just release one hero and claim that was their release for Orruk Warclans this edition. No need to treat IJ and KB as a separate army this way.

Then again, IJ got a long overdue expansion later in the edition, so anything can happen.

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Just now, Snarff said:

So they can just release one hero and claim that was their release for Orruk Warclans this edition. No need to treat IJ and KB as a separate army this way.

Then again, IJ got a long overdue expansion later in the edition, so anything can happen.

Clearly this means that Tzeentch and Khrone get to share a book and a single wizard release! :P

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1 minute ago, Snarff said:

So they can just release one hero and claim that was their release for Orruk Warclans this edition. No need to treat IJ and KB as a separate army this way.

Then again, IJ got a long overdue expansion later in the edition, so anything can happen.

Keep in mind this is just indexes, which are fundamentally still based on the last edition. Given the way the Warclans rules are written, I would certainly expect them to get separate battletomes when the time comes.

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15 minutes ago, PraetorDragoon said:

Clearly this means that Tzeentch and Khrone get to share a book and a single wizard release! :P

Given how much GW has been pushing Khornate wizards anyway and openly mocking Khorne players for claiming that Khorne despises magic, you joke but...

As always, no one knows Warhammer worse than GW.

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38 minutes ago, PraetorDragoon said:

Don't forget that despite having no crossover (in the index at least) and being two seperate factions the Orcs... still have to share a book. 

I really do not mind this as much.  The ranges are both bigger then some other armies and this way I only have to buy 1 book 

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15 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

Keep in mind this is just indexes, which are fundamentally still based on the last edition. Given the way the Warclans rules are written, I would certainly expect them to get separate battletomes when the time comes.

If that 4chan leak is correct they wont be split.

Though I HIGHLY doubt that it is correct.

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3 hours ago, petitionercity said:

2010 is probably now old enough now - it does feel like 3rd was and 4th will see the further clearing out of legacy wfb models. Although you are right there are much older survivors (ogres, plague monks, night runners, etc)!

Oh it’s definitely old enough now. Those models have some frankly garbage connection points. I built three, and I don’t have any intention of building more until they get a refresh.

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23 minutes ago, Snarff said:

So they can just release one hero and claim that was their release for Orruk Warclans this edition. No need to treat IJ and KB as a separate army this way.

Then again, IJ got a long overdue expansion later in the edition, so anything can happen.

I don’t believe it’s a true leak 

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5 hours ago, Ragest said:

Yes, they are.

Almost the same, but losing th -1 hit.

Just bought a Kharadron army, so now we are mates xD

Did Fellwaters get something in place of losing their stench ability? It seems pretty harsh that they lost their -1 to be hit. Are they at least 5 wounds like the Rockguts?

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22 minutes ago, PraetorDragoon said:

Clearly this means that Tzeentch and Khrone get to share a book and a single wizard release! :P

Fine by me if we get a wave with a couple of kits. 😋

And don‘t you dare liken Khorne and Tzeentch to primitive savages like those dumb Greenskins… 🤔 well, don‘t liken Tzeentch to them at least, you‘ve got a point in Khorne‘s case!

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1 minute ago, Snarff said:

I hope it's not a true leak. KB and IDK are due for a much bigger wave than that and SBGL, Seraphon, StD and CoS have just had waves recently.

Well, while it is true that it is pointing to armies that had a decent release recently, there's something positive in that "leak" that would be awesome if it happens and it is that it said the edition will be more packed than usual to catch up with unreleased stuff, so it could mean that other factions like FS, Ogors or DK that are in need could get a decent release.

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2 hours ago, Hollow said:

You don't know why?

There has been months of discussion about how there is seperation (for whatever reason) between AoS and ToW lines. The current Duardin kits have all been shown to be coming with ToW Dwarf release (The Gyrocopters are in the Battlion box and the IronDrakes and Characters were shown as part of the preview article) 

 

But it doesn't mean all dwarves in AoS now are going to TOW exclusively. 

My guess is they will want to keep the lines separate but may not be able to for everything.

It wasn't a problem for brets and tomb kings as they didn't have AoS models but with orcs and goblins, no old squig models were released so you have to use AoS squigs, hoppers and manglers. Maybe the old moulds for metal squigs couldn't be used for whatever reason. 

I think we need to wait and see as I don't think there will be a one fit all solution. 

I'm sure at some point in the future the current plastic dwarves and dark elves will disappear, as along with ogres they are the last major lines that came from old fantasy (and a few kits sprinkled through other armies). I just wouldn't take it as a sure thing that dwarves are getting new kits very soon in the future. 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Ogregut said:

But it doesn't mean all dwarves in AoS now are going to TOW exclusively. 

My guess is they will want to keep the lines separate but may not be able to for everything.

It wasn't a problem for brets and tomb kings as they didn't have AoS models but with orcs and goblins, no old squig models were released so you have to use AoS squigs, hoppers and manglers. Maybe the old moulds for metal squigs couldn't be used for whatever reason. 

Same story for the fanatics as well, though. 

Surely they know people are just going to use the new models... they can't be that bloody-minded about the whole thing!  

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1 minute ago, Big Kim Woof-Woof said:

Same story for the fanatics as well, though. 

Surely they know people are just going to use the new models... they can't be that bloody-minded about the whole thing!  

They know people will use whatever models, but still need different product lines on offer for AoS and TOW because Citadel and Specialist Games are separate studios that need some kind of data to point to in order to internally justify the success of their projects.

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