The Rumour Thread

[Garrac]

ONE DAY FOR THE RATCKONING

[Ejecutor]

1 hour ago, Chikout said:

Embraced is desperate for easy cash. Granting rights is a risk free way of doing that. 
Anyway 33 hours is to go until the Skaven reveal and still no leaks. Has gw actually managed to keep a reveal secret for once?

How can we call it no leaks when we know from months ago what it is going to be shown? 😅

[HorticulusTGA]

3 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

what it is going to be shown

IMO most boring preview ever, between all the cropped leaks from Skaventide and the Broodhorror, the assembled Warlock, the WarCom silhouette and the COMPLETE LIST of what we can expect ... This time GW went too far with their planned-hype viral marketing strategy 

[Ejecutor]

1 minute ago, HorticulusTGA said:

IMO most boring preview ever, between all the cropped leaks from Skaventide and the Broodhorror, the assembled Warlock, the WarCom silhouette and the COMPLETE LIST of what we can expect ... This time GW went too far with their planned-hype viral marketing strategy 

Do you think it is planned? Then why they only hyped the Skavens? IMO, with Skavens lacking a proper release from so long ago they didn't have to hype it at all. Just look at Garrac as an example.

[Garrac]

Just made a bingo for tomorrow:

[Chikout]

12 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

How can we call it no leaks when we know from months ago what it is going to be shown? 😅

Rumours aren’t leaks. Even the brood terror isn’t really a leak as it’s from the core book. The only true leak was the warlock and that happened so long ago it was more like a Skaventide leak than a Hel Crown reveal leak. As an example SG Warhound shared some rumours about the Skaven release and then they leaked some blurry shots from the book. 

[HorticulusTGA]

5 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Do you think it is planned?

Of course.

6 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Then why they only hyped the Skavens

Because Skaven is a long-neglected army (in AOS) and call back to WFB nostaglia and Warhammer-yness (I do love Skaven too btw). So they are banking on that to create online discussions, while SCE sometimes can be controversial (to salty grognards). Meaning the easiset army to hype was the Skaven.

And - surprize - they surely are first in the release pipeline (these things are set in stone months in advance, you cannot change them because of a poll).

That's why they won Hel Crown and will be shown tomorrow, @Elarin mentionning the possibility of pre-orders at the end of the month (even if one would think the posterboy army would be first release of the new edition like GW usually do it)

[Ejecutor]

9 minutes ago, Chikout said:

Rumours aren’t leaks. Even the brood terror isn’t really a leak as it’s from the core book. The only true leak was the warlock and that happened so long ago it was more like a Skaventide leak than a Hel Crown reveal leak. As an example SG Warhound shared some rumours about the Skaven release and then they leaked some blurry shots from the book. 

When the source of the rumour has been turned into a valid source, IMO that's a leak and not a rumour anymore.

[Ejecutor]

10 minutes ago, HorticulusTGA said:

Of course.

Because Skaven is a long-neglected army (in AOS) and call back to WFB nostaglia and Warhammer-yness (I do love Skaven too btw). So they are banking on that to create online discussions, while SCE sometimes can be controversial (to salty grognards). Meaning the easiset army to hype was the Skaven.

And - surprize - they surely are first in the release pipeline (these things are set in stone months in advance, you cannot change them because of a poll).

That's why they won Hel Crown and will be shown tomorrow, @Elarin mentionning the possibility of pre-orders at the end of the month (even if one would think the posterboy army would be first release of the new edition like GW usually do it)

Nids came earlier than Space Marines in 10th.

[Deakz28]

25 minutes ago, HorticulusTGA said:

And - surprize - they surely are first in the release pipeline (these things are set in stone months in advance, you cannot change them because of a poll).

That's why they won Hel Crown and will be shown tomorrow, @Elarin mentionning the possibility of pre-orders at the end of the month (even if one would think the posterboy army would be first release of the new edition like GW usually do it)

Odds are GW would’ve written both battletomes (SC and Skaven) at the same time, models would’ve been prepped ages ago for both. And as we’ve seen with Covid and other delays GW can make adjustments to release schedules on the fly, and that’s without having had to plan them. I believe they could easily plan for a scheduled release in which is between two decided by a poll. After all this would’ve been planned months ago

Edited August 9 by Deakz28

[Gaz Taylor]

7 minutes ago, Deakz28 said:

Odds are this is just wrong, GW would’ve written both battletomes (SC and Skaven) at the same time, models would’ve been prepped ages ago for both. And as we’ve seen with Covid and other delays GW can make adjustments to release schedules on the fly, and that’s without having had to plan them. I believe they could easily plan for a scheduled release in which is between two decided by a poll. After all this would’ve been planned months ago

100% this. GW can swap and change schedules around whenever they need to. If I was to guess, they would have something like X number of AOS releases, Y number of 40K releases and Z number of other stuff for each quarter and they swap stuff around. For example, do they need some good results for the financial report? Swap around some of the 40K releases. Issues with a printed book? Push forwards another release.

Like @Deakz28 has mentioned, both Skaven and Stormcast battletomes were probably written at the same time and both ranges are good to go. The just swap one out for the other.

Also technically, as they seem to have followed 40Ks format with the free lists, most of the battletomes are already written and need tweaks for any new models (or if you're cynical, to assist with sales....  ).

[Skreech Verminking]

27 minutes ago, Gaz Taylor said:

100% this. GW can swap and change schedules around whenever they need to. If I was to guess, they would have something like X number of AOS releases, Y number of 40K releases and Z number of other stuff for each quarter and they swap stuff around. For example, do they need some good results for the financial report? Swap around some of the 40K releases. Issues with a printed book? Push forwards another release.

Like @Deakz28 has mentioned, both Skaven and Stormcast battletomes were probably written at the same time and both ranges are good to go. The just swap one out for the other.

Also technically, as they seem to have followed 40Ks format with the free lists, most of the battletomes are already written and need tweaks for any new models (or if you're cynical, to assist with sales....  ).

I funnily enough wouldn’t be astonished if somebody stated that a third or more of the faction have an already written book for this edition, just waiting to be released.

[AquaRegis]

Both the Stormcast and Skaven models/books were completed a long time ago, along with a good chunk of the upcoming battletomes and whatever models will be coming with them. They will probably be releasing at around the same time if not in the same week. All the Helcrown event did was decide what models will be shown off first at the preview. 

The boxes are probably sat in the warehouse as we speak, ready to ship out. 

 

If Chaos Dwarves are coming this edition, the models have probably already been designed, and painted up, and the battletomes is probably finalised and ready to be printed. If you believe Valrak and that Angron was ready 2 years before he released and Fulgrim already has a finished model, then these models were probably finished in late last year.

[AquaRegis]

Designing a model let alone a whole new range takes time. 

You need to do concept art/sketches, design early drafts on the models, finalise those drafts into designs, write up the lore and battletome, talk to management about creating space for manufacturing and mold production, the Eavy metal team have to paint them up and take the photos, then the factory has to produce them and then allocate logistics for shipping, and then you can start the marketing. 

This isn't even including the back and forth between different departments, figuring out the costs and getting the project approved however that all works.

It genuinely wouldn't suprise me if the Skaven design concepts were being worked on near the begining of 3rd edition. 

[Ejecutor]

6 minutes ago, AquaRegis said:

Both the Stormcast and Skaven models/books were completed a long time ago, along with a good chunk of the upcoming battletomes and whatever models will be coming with them. They will probably be releasing at around the same time if not in the same week. All the Helcrown event did was decide what models will be shown off first at the preview. 

The boxes are probably sat in the warehouse as we speak, ready to ship out. 

 

If Chaos Dwarves are coming this edition, the models have probably already been designed, and painted up, and the battletomes is probably finalised and ready to be printed. If you believe Valrak and that Angron was ready 2 years before he released and Fulgrim already has a finished model, then these models were probably finished in late last year.

The event also decided which one came earlier for the Nids and Space Marines.

[AquaRegis]

5 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

The event also decided which one came earlier for the Nids and Space Marines.

That's true, but it was a difference of a week or two to my memory, which doesn't take a huge amount of work.

Plus the release schedule can a bit all over the place. Why did Elise Duchard release months after the rest of the bretonnia range come out? Who knows!

[Karriko]

Just waiting for them to show roadmap for the people who dont care about rats or stormcasts. 

40k one was shown at the first preview back in april 2023, and i cant understand whats their problem to show AoS one. 

[01rtb01]

3 hours ago, AquaRegis said:

Both the Stormcast and Skaven models/books were completed a long time ago, along with a good chunk of the upcoming battletomes and whatever models will be coming with them. They will probably be releasing at around the same time if not in the same week. All the Helcrown event did was decide what models will be shown off first at the preview. 

The boxes are probably sat in the warehouse as we speak, ready to ship out. 

 

If Chaos Dwarves are coming this edition, the models have probably already been designed, and painted up, and the battletomes is probably finalised and ready to be printed. If you believe Valrak and that Angron was ready 2 years before he released and Fulgrim already has a finished model, then these models were probably finished in late last year.

At least, it's generally been said by the studio that stuff is about 3 years ahead of what we see which is why when staff have been interviewed they have to think back and that is quite clear. Fulgrim and friends plus chorfs are no doubt in the studio somewhere all ready to go.

[Gareth 🍄]

Not made to order, they're returning to the range.

Edited August 9 by Gareth 🍄

[Neil Arthur Hotep]

2 minutes ago, Gareth 🍄 said:

Not made to order, they're returning to the range.

Oh, nice! I have been looking into the possibility of getting another chapel. The Fortified Manor is a great kit; I painted one last year.

[Neverchosen]

6 minutes ago, Gareth 🍄 said:

Not made to order, they're returning to the range.

Just posted about it on the general chat thread as I had been inquiring about old terrain, I am going to have to decide between the Sigmarite Chapel and the Watchtower for my small Cities of Sigmar village.

[GloomkingWortwazi]

The Manor is such a great kit. Happy to see it back!

[Snarff]

Let's hope this means there will be more AoS terrain soon as well.

I can't imagine that they release all these kits not made to order and still don't release the non-ruined dawnbringers terrain and incarnate.

[Snarff]

Double post

Edited August 9 by Snarff

[Neil Arthur Hotep]

7 minutes ago, Snarff said:

Let's hope this means there will be more AoS terrain soon as well.

I can't imagine that they release all these kits not made to order and still don't release the non-ruined dawnbringers terrain and incarnate.

Right? I have been thinking the same thing with all the old AoS terrain and endless spells going out of print. 40k and warcry seem like they have no trouble just pumping out terrain kits.