cyrus Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 19 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: How is the Griffin safe when it has a Karl Franzs advert? I think they actually managed to change the name on ToW book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-knight77 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 24 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: How is the Griffin safe when it has a Karl Franzs advert? It Marshal Karl Franz MCDDXI mythicaly said to be descendant to a emperor of the old world LOL But even in the TOW that name mean nothing since it centuries before his borth and his ancestor name wasn't Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-knight77 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, cyrus said: I think they actually managed to change the name on ToW book. The kit come with two other non-descriptive insignia I know i have the dragon one on my but i don't remember the other one But you can build a generics verion of the griffon without having the name karl franz Edited August 23 by Dragon-knight77 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucentia Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Karl Franz is just how you say hello in the mortal realms, it doesn't come up much. Doesn't the luminark/hurricanum also have Karl Franz written on it somewhere? I feel like I remember that when I was painting mine 1000 years ago. Tbh I would kinda like to see an AoS reimagining of the luminark, the idea of a mobile mad wizard tower/workshop is a fun one, but the actual models I find pretty goofy. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: GW mystery. I also thought the Hurricanum and Luminark kits would be removed for that reason before the Cities release actually happened, but they were not, so personally that tells me GW just doesn't consider it a big deal. Also, I don't think having an appearance in the lore or images makes any difference: Even the SCE from the back have vanished. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, cyrus said: I think they actually managed to change the name on ToW book. Would it be weird to have an "upgrade" sprue with a different name? One that can be shared between AoS and ToW and even shared between two different users? One for AoS and using the Sigmar chest, and the rest is for ToW Empire regions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 minute ago, Ejecutor said: Also, I don't think having an appearance in the lore or images makes any difference: Even the SCE from the back have vanished. Maybe, but never appearing in the lore and art is certainly a bad sign. And the Hurricanum/Luminark has at least avoided that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetconnedLegion Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, Ejecutor said: How is the Griffin safe when it has a Karl Franzs advert? Ah but that’s just as much a reason for it being safe - Karl Franz isn’t born for a few hundred years after The Old World. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dragon-knight77 said: The kit come with two other non-descriptive insignia I know i have the dragon one on my but i don't remember the other one But you can build a generics verion of the griffon without having the name karl franz Ohh. That explains everything. I won't buy it, because it is my rule of buying AoS only kits, but honestly... is not a bad kit. Bigger than Thalia, it has multiple options... and costs almost a third of Thalia's kit. EDIT. This is it. Pretty handy the picture of the sprue, GW. We can see the details of those 3 chests Edited August 23 by Ejecutor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 48 minutes ago, Lucentia said: Karl Franz is just how you say hello in the mortal realms, it doesn't come up much. Doesn't the luminark/hurricanum also have Karl Franz written on it somewhere? I feel like I remember that when I was painting mine 1000 years ago. Tbh I would kinda like to see an AoS reimagining of the luminark, the idea of a mobile mad wizard tower/workshop is a fun one, but the actual models I find pretty goofy. And the horses don't do it any favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetconnedLegion Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 (edited) TBH I think its days became numbered with Tahlias release. Big heraldic beast mount? Got two now so the old ones redundant. Edited August 23 by RetconnedLegion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Just now, RetconnedLegion said: TBH I think its days became numbered with Vahlias release. Big heraldic beast mount? Got two now so the old ones redundant. I think so as well. And I don't see CoS as a big monsters army anymore. Thalia is the exception because she is the big leader. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaRegis Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 2 hours ago, Tonhel said: The funny thing is that that griffon also has no place in TOW too. Anyway not bothered about it, as this will be my imperial griffon for TOW and it is also a better update for AoS. The forbidden Codpiece 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-knight77 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ejecutor said: I think so as well. And I don't see CoS as a big monsters army anymore. Thalia is the exception because she is the big leader. How? Various other faction still has their big generic leader model even when there a name character Sylvaneth aren't losing their spirit of Durthru because Beltahos is a thing Same with Stardrakes (and rumor of the Morrgryph), Carnosaur, Magmadroth, The lord vanari, maw grunta, Khardon ships, Terrorghiest ect ect. Edited August 23 by Dragon-knight77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaRegis Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, Ejecutor said: I think so as well. And I don't see CoS as a big monsters army anymore. Thalia is the exception because she is the big leader. I have no interest in Thalia, and since I run a Hammer Ghyra army, I'd rather use a generic hero on monster then a named character. Makes even less sense to use her in a Lethis or Misthaven army. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-knight77 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 just out of curiosity, @Whitefang back me up can you like tell us how many units the Stormcast will be receiving? just a number just to gage if they're getting just as much as the skaven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommissarRotke Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Please Do This For Warcry 👀 https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/08/23/kill-team-co-op-tackle-intense-joint-ops-missions-in-the-newest-game-mode/ 6 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetconnedLegion Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, Dragon-knight77 said: How? Various other faction still has their big generic leader model even when there a name character Sylvaneth aren't losing their spirit of Durthru because Beltahos is a thing Same with Stardrakes (and rumor of the Morrgryph), Carnosaur, Magmadroth, The lord vanari, maw grunta, Khardon ships, Terrorghiest ect ect. Because the Griffon is a leftover from WHFB and no longer matches the aesthetic of Cities humans. The pattern for Cities has also been to keep the leftover WHFB units until their archetype is present elsewhere in AoS. Leftover Wood Elves went after the fleshing out of Sylvaneth, leftover High Elves went after the Lumineth were established. Cities has a leader on a big winged heraldic beast, which is why I’m expecting the Griffon to depart in the not too distant future. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, Dragon-knight77 said: How? Various other faction still has their big generic leader model even when there a name character Sylvaneth aren't losing their spirit of Durthru because Beltahos is a thing Same with Stardrakes (and rumor of the Morrgryph), Carnosaur, Magmadroth, The lord vanari, maw grunta, Khardon ships, Terrorghiest ect ect. This is all my personal opinion. CoS and Darkoath are both the lowest of the low fantasy from AoS. They are all about hummies with little sparks of monsters. For example, I wouldn't see a Darkoath over a mount like the Abraxias one. But their monster from the box? It fits and has a lore explanation. Enough. In fact, for CoS I see big machines made by humans or duardins rather than big monsters. Something like the Mechanical horses from Vindicarum. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, AquaRegis said: I have no interest in Thalia, and since I run a Hammer Ghyra army, I'd rather use a generic hero on monster then a named character. Makes even less sense to use her in a Lethis or Misthaven army. I don't think so. Hammerhall is the leading city of all the cities of Sigmar. And Vedra is one of her leading authorities. It makes total sense that she goes and helps other cities if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitGas Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Nothing to do with Thalia per se but I generally hate that so many of the super special characters pop up in way too many games. I really would like to see more of our own heroes personally (something for the next edition perhaps?) ….or make the GW created heroes less „mandatory“ to take. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 37 minutes ago, MitGas said: Nothing to do with Thalia per se but I generally hate that so many of the super special characters pop up in way too many games. I really would like to see more of our own heroes personally (something for the next edition perhaps?) ….or make the GW created heroes less „mandatory“ to take. I have forced myself to accept it by making the special characters my own unique characters. Yndrasta is not specifically her but an angelic hero, nor is Be'lakor the first demon prince but rather an ancient demon that has developed a cult of followers. It doesn't solve the problem but it has provided me more joy in using these units in my army 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitGas Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, Neverchosen said: I have forced myself to accept it by making the special characters my own unique characters. Yndrasta is not specifically her but an angelic hero, nor is Be'lakor the first demon prince but rather an ancient demon that has developed a cult of followers. It doesn't solve the problem but it has provided me more joy in using these units in my army Yeah, that‘s a good compromise, the best possible right now. 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 14 minutes ago, MitGas said: Yeah, that‘s a good compromise, the best possible right now. 👍 Tzeentch is particularly great for this, as you can develop heroes that put on the guise of the Curseling or Ahriman with their spellcraft for some complex scheme. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScionOfOssia Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 8 minutes ago, Neverchosen said: Tzeentch is particularly great for this, as you can develop heroes that put on the guise of the Curseling or Ahriman with their spellcraft for some complex scheme. Good news then- Curselings aren’t a unique person, they’re just a dude with a Tzeentchian parasite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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