The Rumour Thread

[Matt Ceney-Pratt]

Khorne has 3 underworlds warbands. They had Gorechosen of Drom I think it was in  Direchasm season. I would like another slaves to Darkness but more like Khagra than Darkoath! 

[JerekKruger]

Any thoughts on what the Skaven UW warband might be? We've had Verminous, Eshin and Pestilens, which doesn't rule any of them out, but I think makes them less likely. That leaves Moulder and Skryre.

Personally I'd prefer Moulder, because it gives room for some cool mutant rat stuff. But it feels very much like Skryre are being pushed as the "correct" way to play Skaven at the moment. They're definitely the winners of the main release. I wouldn't necessarily mind a proxy engineer character for them.

[EonChao]

Just an idle thought this morning, but recently 40k has been releasing some of the hero figures from Blackstone Fortress as individual releases. The Technoarcheologist was released in December 2022 for Ad Mech, then the Ministorum Priest with Vindictor was released alongside Codex Adeptus Sororitas earlier this year, and finally the Ministorum Priest and Navis Nobilite Navigator were both released alongside Codex Agents of the Imperium.

Could we see the same with some of the Cursed City heroes? There's certainly some good sculpts there and they'd potentially give a few factions more options

[sandlemad]

19 minutes ago, JerekKruger said:

Any thoughts on what the Skaven UW warband might be? We've had Verminous, Eshin and Pestilens, which doesn't rule any of them out, but I think makes them less likely. That leaves Moulder and Skryre.

Personally I'd prefer Moulder, because it gives room for some cool mutant rat stuff. But it feels very much like Skryre are being pushed as the "correct" way to play Skaven at the moment. They're definitely the winners of the main release. I wouldn't necessarily mind a proxy engineer character for them.

I’d actually disagree, I think this release is focused around a 1-2 punch of Skyre and Moulder, both falling under the broader rat science angle. It leans a bit more towards Skyre but have basically 3 prominent new Moulder units and then the gnaw-beast is prominent as a Moulder creation. For AoS, it’s very much Pestilens and Eshin that are trailing.

tbh I could see a small ‘trained circus’ kind of warband featuring a pack master, rat ogre, and some smaller giant rats or similar being right up WHU’s alley.

[The Lost Sigmarite]

13 hours ago, Dragon-knight77 said:

AOS and fantasy fans got some really major stuff waiting for them

• 9-10 Stormcast models
• A roadmap of the rest of the year
• two Underworld warbands (more Sakven and stormcast stuff)
• A new Warcry setting and warbands
• TOW showing off the High elves stuff that i know some AOS player would like to have to proxy their Lumineth or even CoS

High Elves are getting models, that's great, too bad it's gonna very likely be a new character and not an upgrade to the spearmen/archers/silver helms (choose which one you want to see updated !).

[Ejecutor]

29 minutes ago, Matt Ceney-Pratt said:

Khorne has 3 underworlds warbands. They had Gorechosen of Drom I think it was in  Direchasm season. I would like another slaves to Darkness but more like Khagra than Darkoath! 

With all the S2D prune it wouldn't be rare to get a new one.

[Ejecutor]

29 minutes ago, JerekKruger said:

Any thoughts on what the Skaven UW warband might be? We've had Verminous, Eshin and Pestilens, which doesn't rule any of them out, but I think makes them less likely. That leaves Moulder and Skryre.

Personally I'd prefer Moulder, because it gives room for some cool mutant rat stuff. But it feels very much like Skryre are being pushed as the "correct" way to play Skaven at the moment. They're definitely the winners of the main release. I wouldn't necessarily mind a proxy engineer character for them.

Moulder with rat hounds or Eshin. That's my bet.

[Draznak]

30 minutes ago, Matt Ceney-Pratt said:

They had Gorechosen of Drom I think it was in  Direchasm season.

Gorechosen of Dromm is the latest warband released for Nethermaze in 2022.

[Ejecutor]

16 minutes ago, EonChao said:

Just an idle thought this morning, but recently 40k has been releasing some of the hero figures from Blackstone Fortress as individual releases. The Technoarcheologist was released in December 2022 for Ad Mech, then the Ministorum Priest with Vindictor was released alongside Codex Adeptus Sororitas earlier this year, and finally the Ministorum Priest and Navis Nobilite Navigator were both released alongside Codex Agents of the Imperium.

Could we see the same with some of the Cursed City heroes? There's certainly some good sculpts there and they'd potentially give a few factions more options

I lack the 40k knowledge. Where those heroes removed from the factions as it happened with the Cursed City ones? That's the key IMO.

[cyrus]

1 hour ago, JerekKruger said:

Any thoughts on what the Skaven UW warband might be? We've had Verminous, Eshin and Pestilens, which doesn't rule any of them out, but I think makes them less likely. That leaves Moulder and Skryre.

Personally I'd prefer Moulder, because it gives room for some cool mutant rat stuff. But it feels very much like Skryre are being pushed as the "correct" way to play Skaven at the moment. They're definitely the winners of the main release. I wouldn't necessarily mind a proxy engineer character for them.

@Whitefang back me up mini doomwheel rumours suggest a Skryre warband 

Unless @SG Warhound wolrats rumors was about a moulder underworlds warband . 

[The Brotherhood of Necros]

I’d wondered if the mini Doomwheel rumours were actually someone seeing the new Doomflayer things they previewed recently? 

[Ejecutor]

6 minutes ago, The Brotherhood of Necros said:

I’d wondered if the mini Doomwheel rumours were actually someone seeing the new Doomflayer things they previewed recently? 

I don't think so, as they came after the Skaven were released and it said something like "Did you like the new Skavens? Wait for the mini doom wheel".

[EonChao]

1 hour ago, DoctorPerils said:

While true in general, they haven't done so yet in second edition warcry. And if they _were_ to double up on a non-chaos faction, I suspect it would be Stormcast or Cities before Seraphon.

 

WRT the Underworlds rumours, I'm guessing the "other chaos" warband would be a new khorne team: I don't think he's had one since the first season (when granted he had two), and I think Nurgle, Tzeentch and Slaanesh have all had a team centred fully on daemons, which Khorne (and the GHR) haven't yet

Only Tzeentch and Slaanesh have demon focused warbands in Underworlds (Ephilim's Pandaemonium and The Thricefold Discord respectively). Khorne has had a warband which included a Fleshhound but was focused on the Blood Warriors, and 2 others but all 3 were mortal focused. Nurgle has only had one warband so far, the Wurmspat.

1 hour ago, Matt Ceney-Pratt said:

Khorne has 3 underworlds warbands. They had Gorechosen of Drom I think it was in  Direchasm season. I would like another slaves to Darkness but more like Khagra than Darkoath! 

Slaves has also had 3 warbands for Underworlds, The Gnarlspirit Pack were released in the Gnarlwood box. Nurgle is the only remaining Chaos faction to have had one warband (sorry Beasts)

56 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

I lack the 40k knowledge. Where those heroes removed from the factions as it happened with the Cursed City ones? That's the key IMO.

They were put in Legends at the start of 10th edition unlike the Cursed City ones.

2 minutes ago, The Brotherhood of Necros said:

I’d wondered if the mini Doomwheel rumours were actually someone seeing the new Doomflayer things they previewed recently? 

No they came after the preview when the Doomflayers were revealed.

[EonChao]

Also for reference, so far Underworlds has given us:

Cities of Sigmar 2 (Hexbane's Hunters, Brethren of the Bolt)

Daughters of Khaine 3 (Morgwaeth's Blade Coven, Shadeborn, Gryselle's Arenai)

Fyreslayers 1 (The Chosen Axes)

Idoneth Deepkin 2 (Elathain's Soulraid, Cyreni's Razors)

Kharadon Overlords 1 (Thundrik's Profiteers)

Lumineth Realm-Lords 1 (Myari's Purifiers)

Seraphon 1 (Starblood Stalkers)

Stormcast Eternals 7 (Steelheart's Champions, The Farstriders, Stormsire's Cursebreakers, Ironsoul's Condemnors, Storm of Celestus, Xandire's Truthseekers, Domitan's Stormcoven)

Sylvaneth 2 (Ylthari's Guardians, Skaeth's Wild Hunt),

Beasts of Chaos 1 (Grashrak's Despoilers)

Blades of Khorne 3 (Garrek's Reavers, Magore's Fiends, Gorechosen of Dromm)

Disciples of Tzeentch 2 (The Eyes of the Nine, Ephilim's Pandaemonium)

Hedonites of Slaanesh 2 (The Dread Pagent, The Thricefold Discord)

Maggotkin of Nurgle 1 (The Wurmspat)

Skaven 3 (Spiteclaw's Swarm, Skittershank's Clawpack, Skabbik's Plaguepack)

Slaves to Darkness 3 (Godsworn Hunt, Khagra's Ravagers, Gnarlspirit Pack)

Flesh-Eater Courts 2 (The Grymwatch, Skinnerkin)

Nighthaunt 4 (Thorns of the Briar Queen, Lady Harrow's Mournflight, Drepur's Wraithcreepers, The Headman's Curse)

Ossiarch Bonereapers 1 (Kainan's Reapers)

Soulblight Gravelords 5 (Sepulchral Guard, Crimson Court, The Exiled Dead, Sons of Velmorn, Zondara's Gravebreakers)

Gloomspite Gitz 3 (Zarbag's Gitz, Mollog's Mob, Rippa's Snarlfangs, Grinkrak's Looncurse)

Ogor Mawtribes 2 (Hrothgorn's Mantrappers, Blackpowder's Buccaneers)

Orruk Warclans 5 (Ironskull's Boyz, Morgok's Krushas, Hedkrakka's Madmob, Da Kunnin' Krew, Daggok's Stab-Ladz)

There's not really a pattern based on how long factions have gone without them, number of units in the main game, or even by how many of each grand alliance get released in a year.

[Garrac]

What I expect from Nova in 3 days:

-Roadmaps for all gsme systems except LOTR

-Wood elves and beastmen anounced for The Old World

-Showing of the stormcast 2nd wave

-Thousand sons, with 3-4 new kits

-Skaven Skryrre vs stormcast core box for Underworlds

-Skaven Moulder vs stormcast box for Warcry

-Tease for Astra Militarum (krieg)

-Next 2 battletome+new mini for AoS

 

Alltho, chances are high of not getting a lot of these things, since Warcom doesnt seem very excited about this (the still isnt a countdown on the web despite remaining less 3 days)

Edited August 25 by Garrac

[Deakz28]

8 minutes ago, Garrac said:

What I expect from Nova in 3 days:

-Roadmaps for all gsme systems except LOTR

-Wood elves and beastmen anounced for The Old World

-Showing of the stormcast 2nd wave

-Thousand sons, with 3-4 new kits

-Skaven Skryrre vs stormcast core box for Underworlds

-Skaven Moulder vs stormcast box for Warcry

-Tease for Astra Militarum (krieg)

-Next 2 battletome+new mini for AoS

You have VERY high expectations  

 

I would love this much skaven and fantasy reveals

Edited August 25 by Deakz28

[RetconnedLegion]

1 hour ago, Ejecutor said:

I lack the 40k knowledge. Were those heroes removed from the factions as it happened with the Cursed City ones? That's the key IMO.

While they were only in Blackstone Fortress they were removed. As they’ve released separately they’ve been added to the relevant Codexes. Not all of them have returned however - the Aeldar, Kroot, Rogue Trader and Ratlings have yet to show up again. And there are a bunch missing from the expansions.

[Ejecutor]

21 minutes ago, Deakz28 said:

You have VERY high expectations  

 

I would love this much skaven and fantasy reveals

I don't expect that many Skavens for Nova, lolz.

[JerekKruger]

2 hours ago, sandlemad said:

I’d actually disagree, I think this release is focused around a 1-2 punch of Skyre and Moulder, both falling under the broader rat science angle. It leans a bit more towards Skyre but have basically 3 prominent new Moulder units and then the gnaw-beast is prominent as a Moulder creation. For AoS, it’s very much Pestilens and Eshin that are trailing.

tbh I could see a small ‘trained circus’ kind of warband featuring a pack master, rat ogre, and some smaller giant rats or similar being right up WHU’s alley.

Oh no question that Eshin and Pestilens have been left behind with the latest wave. I was just thinking of it from the POV of UWs (which GW seen to have decided should be fully silo'd from AoS now).

In AoS proper in actually most disappointment by the Moulder release, since I think they'll be viewed as having been "done" now, so won't get anything for a while, but in comparison to Skryre their new releases are pretty meagre. At least Eshin and Pestilens can hope for a future wave (well, realistically I think Eshin will just be a Warcry warband).

[Garrac]

56 minutes ago, Deakz28 said:

You have VERY high expectations  

 

I would love this much skaven and fantasy reveals

I may be coping on the warcry releases, but Id be surprised if there isnt something anounced for TOW and 40k at the very least. Underworlds seems like a safe bet. Warcry is really the biggest queetionmark.

[cyrus]

1 hour ago, Garrac said:

What I expect from Nova in 3 days:

-Roadmaps for all gsme systems except LOTR

-Wood elves and beastmen anounced for The Old World

-Showing of the stormcast 2nd wave

-Thousand sons, with 3-4 new kits

-Skaven Skryrre vs stormcast core box for Underworlds

-Skaven Moulder vs stormcast box for Warcry

-Tease for Astra Militarum (krieg)

-Next 2 battletome+new mini for AoS

 

Alltho, chances are high of not getting a lot of these things, since Warcom doesnt seem very excited about this (the still isnt a countdown on the web despite remaining less 3 days)

Beside Stormcast full reveal which is given I don’t think we will see many miniatures reveals since they specified that they will focus on roadmaps : 

This show will be a little different to our normal previews, with the focus on roadmaps and the inside track on what’s coming soon for all your favourite games.

 

Edited August 25 by cyrus

[Ejecutor]

56 minutes ago, cyrus said:

Beside Stormcast full reveal which is given I don’t think we will see many miniatures reveals since they specified that they will focus on roadmaps : 

This show will be a little different to our normal previews, with the focus on roadmaps and the inside track on what’s coming soon for all your favourite games.

 

Even with that, they cannot make a preview without minis. I think they stated that so everyone is aware that a decent chunk will be roadmaps and their explanations.

[Baron I_oyd]

3 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Even with that, they cannot make a preview without minis. I think they stated that so everyone is aware that a decent chunk will be roadmaps and their explanations.

GW be like 

30-40 mins roadmaps and few models ..meheh evil GW

Edited August 25 by Baron I_oyd

[Garrac]

3 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Even with that, they cannot make a preview without minis. I think they stated that so everyone is aware that a decent chunk will be roadmaps and their explanations.

Id also be surprised if the specialist games dont have anything cooking at all. This Nova is the preview for all the stuff from here to LVO 2025, unless GW keeps going big on the monday reveals (which, tbf, could be the case for the 40k releases)

[01rtb01]

2 hours ago, Garrac said:

What I expect from Nova in 3 days:

-Roadmaps for all gsme systems except LOTR

-Wood elves and beastmen anounced for The Old World

-Showing of the stormcast 2nd wave

-Thousand sons, with 3-4 new kits

-Skaven Skryrre vs stormcast core box for Underworlds

-Skaven Moulder vs stormcast box for Warcry

-Tease for Astra Militarum (krieg)

-Next 2 battletome+new mini for AoS

 

Alltho, chances are high of not getting a lot of these things, since Warcom doesnt seem very excited about this (the still isnt a countdown on the web despite remaining less 3 days)

It's only AoS, 40k, old world and heresy so most of that ain't happening lol.