Ejecutor Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 minutes ago, PraetorDragoon said: The Old World is a specialist game, right? 😬 I thought he was talking about ToW roadmap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagard Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) @Whitefang back me up do you have any clue about new generic terrain features? Edited August 28 by Vagard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrac Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Btw, my definitive speculations on the skaven prices: Vizzik Skour 115 € Krittock Foulblade 35 € Master Moulder 34 € Arch Warlock 34 € Stormvermin 44 € Warlock galvaneer 31,50 € Acolyte Globadiers 35 € Warpsark Weapon Battery 47,50 € Warp-grinder 44 € Doom-Flayer 44 € Battletome 47,50 € Battletome Gamer Edition 47,50 € Dices 24 € Warscroll cards 26 € 1) Total of (without the Gamer edition): 561,50 € 2) Total of (with the Gamer edition): 609 € 3) Results from 1) with a 15% discount applied: 477,21 € 4) Results from 1) with a 25% discount applied: 421,25 € Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Weaver Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) 5 hours ago, GenericEdgyName said: On another note, what do y'all think are the chances of more factions getting endless spells and terrain in this edition? Both of these things are kinda important in the rules now and I think they figured out manufacturing them, so I believe we might see quite a few coming out. I think that the chances are quite high, especially in relation to endless spells/manifestations. Currently, most factions only have access to three faction specific spells at a time and many wizards and priests no longer have a unique spell on their warscroll. We will have to wait and see if spell lores are expanded in the full battletome releases, because three spells is honestly not enough for magic heavy factions like Seraphon and Soulblight Gravelords. I wouldn't be surprised to see Grave Guard and Saurus Guard released alongside endless spells for Soulblight Gravelords and Seraphon. Based on rumours and the rumour engine I wouldn't be surprised if they are some of the first new books of the edition. I also think we can expect to see some kind of Aetheric mechanisms, harnessed magics, or something similar for the Kharadron Overlords. As an aside, I think Idoneth Deepkin will probably have a blended manifestation lore like Daughters of Khaine, where some are summoned by spells and some by prayers. Edited August 28 by Star Weaver Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonhel Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 hour ago, Vagard said: @Whitefang back me up do you have any clue about new generic terrain features? For generic terrain, not faction specific terrain? I think zero. Afaik all terrain is now inhouse production. No stuff from China anymore. Pure guessing from me, but I assume the main studio has X budget per year, which they can fund their projects with. So if budget is allocated to a new mould for a plastic terrain set, it can't be allocated to a new or updated unit. Imo, even faction specific terrain comes at the cost of a new / or updated unit for that faction. Same for the SDS studio. It's very cool that they are bring old terrain back, but I don't want new plastic terrain at the cost of a new plastic unit for TOW. Anyway for terrain 3D printing (fdm or resin) is the way to go. A great example is in the OBR faction thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScionOfOssia Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 26 minutes ago, Star Weaver said: some are summoned by spells and some by prayers. First: By what priest, exactly? Second: Who exactly is answering their prayers? Mathlann is unbelievably super dead and because of their souls, they can’t really generate any particular “worship” power, so pretty much every other God wouldn’t hear them. It should be strictly spells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagard Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 36 minutes ago, Tonhel said: For generic terrain, not faction specific terrain? I think zero. Afaik all terrain is now inhouse production. No stuff from China anymore. Pure guessing from me, but I assume the main studio has X budget per year, which they can fund their projects with. So if budget is allocated to a new mould for a plastic terrain set, it can't be allocated to a new or updated unit. Imo, even faction specific terrain comes at the cost of a new / or updated unit for that faction. Same for the SDS studio. It's very cool that they are bring old terrain back, but I don't want new plastic terrain at the cost of a new plastic unit for TOW. Anyway for terrain 3D printing (fdm or resin) is the way to go. A great example is in the OBR faction thread. If this is true since the 10th ed W40k, this argument is not valid as they get some new terrains. If not, then yes maybe GW will reduce their terrain production but then why did they released terrains for a smaller game (old world)? Ofc they were altready designed but they still take some room in the production line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PraetorDragoon Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 28 minutes ago, ScionOfOssia said: First: By what priest, exactly? Second: Who exactly is answering their prayers? Mathlann is unbelievably super dead and because of their souls, they can’t really generate any particular “worship” power, so pretty much every other God wouldn’t hear them. It should be strictly spells. In the Soulbound rpg the Deepkin can put their faith in the Ethersea, and use Ethersea miracles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonhel Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 7 minutes ago, Vagard said: If this is true since the 10th ed W40k, this argument is not valid as they get some new terrains. If not, then yes maybe GW will reduce their terrain production but then why did they released terrains for a smaller game (old world)? Ofc they were altready designed but they still take some room in the production line. You can't compare 40k to AoS. The terrain for TOW is old terrain from more than a decade ago. The moulds (probably steel moulds) are probably still in great condition and earned their investment back a long time ago. Steel moulds are expensive, aluminium moulds are cheaper, but need replacing much faster. The mould part is the big investment, not the production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverchosen Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 3 hours ago, ScionOfOssia said: First: By what priest, exactly? Second: Who exactly is answering their prayers? Mathlann is unbelievably super dead and because of their souls, they can’t really generate any particular “worship” power, so pretty much every other God wouldn’t hear them. It should be strictly spells. 2 hours ago, PraetorDragoon said: In the Soulbound rpg the Deepkin can put their faith in the Ethersea, and use Ethersea miracles. Purely head canon but I genuinely love to believe that Tyrion was upset with Teclis' handling of the Idoneth and secretly watches over them. It also means that some Idoneth and Tyrionic Aelves can have stronger relations and alliances. While others will be distrustful of all Lumineth and understandably doubt Tyrion's intentions as he ontinues to favour his own children above them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrac Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Well, Im gonna sleep this one. See you in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-knight77 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) No more predictions here what every one has stated Edited August 29 by Dragon-knight77 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Firaun Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 22 minutes ago, Dragon-knight77 said: No more predictions here what every one has stated Seems legit, alright anyone who lives in a different time zone and needs to sleep, like this post and I'll tag you throughout the night. @MitGas? @KingBrodd? anyone else? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Firaun Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 12 hours ago, GloomkingWortwazi said: Raise two token and a coffin. Gentlemen, ante up to the pot, bets to you *glares around and then at his 'chips'* I sure hope we get some death stuff marked for early on in this roadmap. I see your bits and throw in a pair of necrosphinx blades and wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloomkingWortwazi Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 27 minutes ago, Dragon-knight77 said: No more predictions here what every one has stated You missed mine 😢😜 On 8/20/2024 at 3:47 PM, GloomkingWortwazi said: I'm gonna go with: NH -> GSG -> KB-> OMT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitGas Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 7 minutes ago, Twisted Firaun said: Seems legit, alright anyone who lives in a different time zone and needs to sleep, like this post and I'll tag you throughout the night. @MitGas? @KingBrodd? anyone else? Thank you, mate! I'll probably go to sleep soon indeed. I doubt there's gonna be anything related to Tzeentch, so I'll do the reasonable thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Firaun Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 3 minutes ago, MitGas said: Thank you, mate! I'll probably go to sleep soon indeed. I doubt there's gonna be anything related to Tzeentch, so I'll do the reasonable thing. I got you brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScionOfOssia Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Someone ping me with the roadmap and if they show any Underworlds/Warcry stuff. I don't really care about much beyond that from this preview and would rather be coherent for my classes tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-knight77 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, Neverchosen said: Purely head canon but I genuinely love to believe that Tyrion was upset with Teclis' handling of the Idoneth and secretly watches over them. It also means that some Idoneth and Tyrionic Aelves can have stronger relations and alliances. While others will be distrustful of all Lumineth and understandably doubt Tyrion's intentions as he ontinues to favour his own children above them. Tyrion was the one to take away Teclis magic shotgun when they started to run away as for Tyrionic nations relationship with the Idoneth it would have to be a sort of Enclave by enclave bases since each are independent run and culturally different. Ionrach the first and most powerful of Idoneth enclave is know to keep their "Ulthuan" mannerism and is located in the seas of Hysh so it wouldn't be a stretch to believe they would be more friendly to their cousins. The same can be said about Nautilar or Briomdar (they are already in Allarielle good grace) on the other spectrum you have Fuethan who was originally the clan of elves who was willing to throw hand against Teclis rather then run to the bottom of the sea and are willing to kill/torture children 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 4 hours ago, Vagard said: If this is true since the 10th ed W40k, this argument is not valid as they get some new terrains. If not, then yes maybe GW will reduce their terrain production but then why did they released terrains for a smaller game (old world)? Ofc they were altready designed but they still take some room in the production line. Yeah, the fact that ToW has a lot of terrain makes me have faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, Neverchosen said: Purely head canon but I genuinely love to believe that Tyrion was upset with Teclis' handling of the Idoneth and secretly watches over them. It also means that some Idoneth and Tyrionic Aelves can have stronger relations and alliances. While others will be distrustful of all Lumineth and understandably doubt Tyrion's intentions as he ontinues to favour his own children above them. In the first BT Lumineth only had one allied race... Idoneth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, Garrac said: Well, Im gonna sleep this one. See you in the morning. 😢 I am here ready for duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, Dragon-knight77 said: No more predictions here what every one has stated It is interesting how most of the bets are around the same factions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-knight77 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 4 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: It is interesting how most of the bets are around the same factions. Here the data that i compile lot of people look to see Gloomspite and Slave to Darkness come soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrindur Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 So Stormcast x3 and Bloodbowl? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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