The Rumour Thread

[Dragon-knight77]

4 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

It is after CoS, but it could be reffering just to one and not the three of them.

This during the 4th edition purge

[LeisureCanid]

6 minutes ago, Dragon-knight77 said:

Yeah the 40k is most from Valrak & Chainsword and bolter

It was responding to this message saying they never comeback. I took that they'll be back in a different form possibly in a diffrent faction

I'd kind've homed in on the "Greenskins" part of this one and rather hoped it meant the (probably) Gitmob army box would pull heavily from WHFB. E.g., doom diver, chariots, catapults.

But it's very vague. And I am very gobbo biased 😊

Speaking of which, I don't think it means we're getting elves. 'cos they don't smell right.

[Ejecutor]

The only mention of Warhammer Day:

Celebrate Warhammer Day with new action figures, video games, and more - Warhammer Community (warhammer-community.com)
 

Some promo, merch, and what could be more interesting, discounts:

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Warhammer Merch will be showcasing new products throughout the week, including the new Grimdark snapback caps and a new Space Marine 2 cap. You can also pick up a cool 25% discount on all tees and hoodies until 9am BST on Monday, the 7th of October.

Warhammer Art are running a 10% discount site-wide until the 11th of October with discount code WHDAY10.

 

 

[cyrus]

23 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

The only mention of Warhammer Day:

Celebrate Warhammer Day with new action figures, video games, and more - Warhammer Community (warhammer-community.com)
 

Some promo, merch, and what could be more interesting, discounts:

 

Come on GW !! We need to do all by ourself ! 😆

 

1 ONE DAY TO GO ! ✌️

[EntMan]

2 hours ago, Bulldoze said:

When did all the duardin CoS stuff get yoinked from the site and folded into Old World dwarfen holds?
Just went on to check some base sizes but none of the previously round base kits like Hammerers are there anymore

Base sizes are available on the old AoS 3.0 app, which I think is still available on the android play store.

[Bulldoze]

11 minutes ago, EntMan said:

Base sizes are available on the old AoS 3.0 app, which I think is still available on the android play store.

Ta but not going to bother round basing them now I've seen that. Surely the writing on the wall for the future of CoS? If new players can't see duardin on the site then it's over for the stunties, and Dark elves probably making their way to OW soon too I guess

Hopefully get some new AoS cities stuff to fill the void

[Dragon-knight77]

51 minutes ago, Bulldoze said:

Dark elves probably making their way to OW soon too I guess

Gone yes but not to TOW since they're listed in legacy 

Edited 14 hours ago by Dragon-knight77

[Sception]

What factions are legacy in tOW was an arbitrary decisions that can be arbitrarily changed in the future.

[cyrus]

14 minutes ago, Sception said:

What factions are legacy in tOW was an arbitrary decisions that can be arbitrarily changed in the future.

No , it is not .

They are the  factions present in the geographical old world at the timeline chosen : 2276 IC 

[Vagard]

1 minute ago, cyrus said:

No , it is not .

They are the  factions present in the geographical old world at the timeline chosen : 2276 IC 

Lizardmen and dark elves have never settled in the old world if i'm not mistaken, only lustria and north west? 

[ScionOfOssia]

5 minutes ago, Vagard said:

Lizardmen and dark elves have never settled in the old world if i'm not mistaken, only lustria and north west? 

Which is why they’re not in TOW

[Vagard]

2 minutes ago, ScionOfOssia said:

Which is why they’re not in TOW

Yeah but htey are in legacy even if they are not in the geographical old world, so nothing really logical here? they could easily remove them if they want to focus on the old world part of the map

[Sception]

35 minutes ago, cyrus said:

No , it is not .

They are the  factions present in the geographical old world at the timeline chosen : 2276 IC 

What factions are present in the geographical old world at the timeline chosen, as well as the decision to restrict 'fully supported' factions to only that limited place and time, was itself in part decided according to what factions were chosen to be 'fully supported' and what factions were chosen to be 'legacy'.  Calling High Elves present enough to be a faction is a bit of a stretch, especially when the overwhelming bulk of their attention should be on Malekith's big invasion of Ulthuan.  The Wars of Sand and Snow were retconned entirley to happen sooner and to have have Settra marching north to make war against all the northern nations, instead of sailing around the old world to make war on just the norse specifically for stealing his crown.  Kislev was in development as an entirely new faction, with heavy suggestion that Cathay was as well, and while neither appeared both remain heavily rumored to appear in the future given the surprising success of the Old World's launch, despite their physical locations being outside of the game's supposed focus area.  All of these factions - supported & legacy & entirely new alike get significant lore attention in the old world rulebook as well, lore that strongly suggests that the game was intended to have a more holistic scope in space if not also in time.

So yeah, what factions are legacy is very much arbitrary, seemingly more about product line separation with AoS and about a late-in-development reduction in the expected support for and scope of the Old World as a game.  The limited geographical and temporal scope of the game is an after-the-fact justification for those choices, not the cause of them, and those limits can and will change if and when the actual factors at play do.  Eg, when GW stops caring about keeping product lines separate, or when old WHFB ranges get phased out of AoS, freeing those lines up for tOW (as is the case with Warriors of Chaos currently), all of course depending on whether tOW did well enough to reverse the decision that limited its scope in the first place - which certainly seemed to be the case at launch, but whether that energy will continue to be sustained long enough to turn the slow and heavy GW shop around remains to be seen.

Edited 12 hours ago by Sception

[Ejecutor]

2 hours ago, Bulldoze said:

Ta but not going to bother round basing them now I've seen that. Surely the writing on the wall for the future of CoS? If new players can't see duardin on the site then it's over for the stunties, and Dark elves probably making their way to OW soon too I guess

Hopefully get some new AoS cities stuff to fill the void

Dark Elves are not part of the ToW roster, but I agree. They will go sooner or later. But before Dark Elves, it is very likely that we loose some of the stuff from the old Empire.

[Ejecutor]

1 hour ago, Sception said:

What factions are legacy in tOW was an arbitrary decisions that can be arbitrarily changed in the future.

It is not as arbitrary as we think. It is a decision based mainly on AoS, so IMO it is not that likely to change. I see new factions released for ToW before getting stuff that is in AoS such as Seraphons, Skavens, Dark Elves, Chaos Duardins...

[Sception]

Just now, Ejecutor said:

It is not as arbitrary as we think. It is a decision based mainly on AoS, so IMO it is not that likely to change. I see new factions released for ToW before getting stuff that is in AoS such as Seraphons, Skavens, Dark Elves, Chaos Duardins...

Warriors of chaos show that factions can be fully supported in both settings at the same time if WHFB ranges have been fully replaced in AoS - though I agree that we're more likely to see Kislev in the Old World before we see Lizardmen, Skaven, or the like taken out of Legends.

[Tonhel]

Yeah, they will have to do something with the those dark elves in CoS. Either remove them or update them to fit more with the CoS theme or maybe for Malerion one day. It are still nice plastics (perfect for TOW), but for AoS they should be more dynamic.

[Nezzhil]

Old World times are different to AoS/40k teams. ToW team is smaller, they work in more games and have windows for releases that are shared with other Specialist games (HH with only two editions, LoTR that seems it is returning after 5 years of freeze, BB with an edition that was over the 4 years).

My recomendation is not follow all these "leaks" that claims that big releases or Legends are coming soon, the only one leaker that is right is always the same and he is very cautious with the expectations of the future. Enjoy the game and don't think about the near future of Legends armies, play them meanwhile they are still playable and you will feel better.

[Elarin]

We should see Stormcast announced for pre-order this Sunday

[Sception]

9 minutes ago, Nezzhil said:

My recomendation is not follow all these "leaks" that claims that big releases or Legends are coming soon, the only one leaker that is right is always the same and he is very cautious with the expectations of the future. Enjoy the game and don't think about the near future of Legends armies, play them meanwhile they are still playable and you will feel better.

This I absolutely agree with.  GW very clearly had deliberately limited tOW project to a much smaller scope than what was once in development, and that they weren't expecting much from the game or planning to devote significant resources to it.  It's entirely possible that tOW's launch was successful enough to turn that thinking around, but even if GW did decide to increase the scope of the game - which is not a sure thing - it would take years for that change to become visible to us in the form of actual releases.

[Sahrial]

20 hours ago, Hollow said:

The Winter Gods. Ancient Deities are handy if you need another God suspended in Ice for an age or two. 

I hope we continue to see Gods (Of all shapes and sizes) explored in parallel with the Mortals of the realms. I am as interested and inspired by a shield and sword as the machinations and Great Games of Gods. 

 

Yknow, speaking of Winter…

isnt it interesting how the Everwinter is a curse that chases BCR Ogors across the realms, and supposedly has no true intelligence, and yet it’s also the force they actively pray to, and commune with.

almost like it’s a god even without a consciousness

just saying the number of things that might be gods that aren’t technically gods could be much wider than we think

[cyrus]

1 hour ago, Sception said:

What factions are present in the geographical old world at the timeline chosen, as well as the decision to restrict 'fully supported' factions to only that limited place and time, was itself in part decided according to what factions were chosen to be 'fully supported' and what factions were chosen to be 'legacy'.  Calling High Elves present enough to be a faction is a bit of a stretch, especially when the overwhelming bulk of their attention should be on Malekith's big invasion of Ulthuan.  The Wars of Sand and Snow were retconned entirley to happen sooner and to have have Settra marching north to make war against all the northern nations, instead of sailing around the old world to make war on just the norse specifically for stealing his crown.  Kislev was in development as an entirely new faction, with heavy suggestion that Cathay was as well, and while neither appeared both remain heavily rumored to appear in the future given the surprising success of the Old World's launch, despite their physical locations being outside of the game's supposed focus area.  All of these factions - supported & legacy & entirely new alike get significant lore attention in the old world rulebook as well, lore that strongly suggests that the game was intended to have a more holistic scope in space if not also in time.

So yeah, what factions are legacy is very much arbitrary, seemingly more about product line separation with AoS and about a late-in-development reduction in the expected support for and scope of the Old World as a game.  The limited geographical and temporal scope of the game is an after-the-fact justification for those choices, not the cause of them, and those limits can and will change if and when the actual factors at play do.  Eg, when GW stops caring about keeping product lines separate, or when old WHFB ranges get phased out of AoS, freeing those lines up for tOW (as is the case with Warriors of Chaos currently), all of course depending on whether tOW did well enough to reverse the decision that limited its scope in the first place - which certainly seemed to be the case at launch, but whether that energy will continue to be sustained long enough to turn the slow and heavy GW shop around remains to be seen.

Again the decision is not arbitrary but made on purpose to have something HH alike for Fantasy and to have something that could be handled by a small team . 
In the making of new ToW map from early 2020  there have never been a simbol/icon of legacy factions .

 

GW have been pretty much clear about that .

[EntMan]

Have they announced what time preview show is tomorrow?

[Tonhel]

26 minutes ago, cyrus said:

Again the decision is not arbitrary but made on purpose to have something HH alike for Fantasy and to have something that could be handled by a small team . 
In the making of new ToW map from early 2020  there have never been a simbol/icon of legacy factions .

 

GW have been pretty much clear about that .

Man, GW barely says what it will release the next 3 months, so they will certainly not say if or when Kislev/Cathay will i.e come in 2026 or 2027. Also, all those articles are from before the article when they said that "the scope of the project has changed".

Everything GW says or does is only a fact for a couple of months. This has been the case for decades.

Anyway, the only trustful source (who is a moderator of the Warhammer Fantasy Battle & Old World discord) that posted almost everything correct posted this a couple of weeks ago.

So TOW will grow, in which form and when has to be seen. 

Edited 10 hours ago by Tonhel

[Ejecutor]

7 minutes ago, EntMan said:

Have they announced what time preview show is tomorrow?