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With the rumours about the upcoming Nurgle and Seraphon warbands for UW I made a global count, this is how it looks:

Order
Cities of Sigmar: 2
Daughters of Khaine: 3
Fyreslayers: 1
Idoneth Deepkin: 2
Kharadron Overlords: 1
Lumineth Realm-Lords: 1
Seraphon: 1 + 1 (Rumoured) = 2
Stormcast Eternals: 8
Sylvaneth: 2

Death
Flesh-Eater Courts: 2
Nighthaunt: 4
Ossiarch Bonereapers: 1
Soulblight Gravelords: 1 (Legions of Nagash) + 4 = 5

Chaos
Beasts of Chaos (RIP): 1
Blades of Khorne: 3
Disciples of Tzeentch: 2
Hedonites of Slaanesh: 2
Maggotkin of Nurgle: 1 + 1 (Rumoured) = 2
Skaven: 4
Slaves to Darkness: 3

Destruction
Gloomspite Gitz: 4
Ogor Mawtribes: 2
Orruk Warclans: 2 (IJ) + 1 (Bonesplitterz ) + 2 (KB) = 5
Sons of Behemat: 0

Looks like the field is more or less even and almost anyone could receive a new warband.

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4 hours ago, Hollow said:

The Teratic Cohort and Twistweald have just been released.

While I generally agree, let's be fair on this one - both warbands were announced in March (if memory serves me well) and delayed so massively that it generated its own discussion on the Warcry's situation and GW's plans.  

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44 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

With the rumours about the upcoming Nurgle and Seraphon warbands for UW I made a global count, this is how it looks:

Order
Cities of Sigmar: 2
Daughters of Khaine: 3
Fyreslayers: 1
Idoneth Deepkin: 2
Kharadron Overlords: 1
Lumineth Realm-Lords: 1
Seraphon: 1 + 1 (Rumoured) = 2
Stormcast Eternals: 8
Sylvaneth: 2

Death
Flesh-Eater Courts: 2
Nighthaunt: 4
Ossiarch Bonereapers: 1
Soulblight Gravelords: 1 (Legions of Nagash) + 4 = 5

Chaos
Beasts of Chaos (RIP): 1
Blades of Khorne: 3
Disciples of Tzeentch: 2
Hedonites of Slaanesh: 2
Maggotkin of Nurgle: 1 + 1 (Rumoured) = 2
Skaven: 4
Slaves to Darkness: 3

Destruction
Gloomspite Gitz: 4
Ogor Mawtribes: 2
Orruk Warclans: 2 (IJ) + 1 (Bonesplitterz ) + 2 (KB) = 5
Sons of Behemat: 0

Looks like the field is more or less even and almost anyone could receive a new warband.

Underworlds warbands generally tend to be based on units or subfactions that already exist in their parent army (unlike Warcry warbands which tend explore new themes), so personally I would look at what units/themes exist already if I wanted to guess future Underworlds warbands. They are also constrained by having to fit on small bases.

Because of this, a Nurgle warband that focuses on demons makes sense to me. I think a Seraphon warband is also still fairly believable, but I'm not sure what the theme would be. The existing Seraphon warband is already a grab-bag of all their Infantry units. Maybe a Kroxigor and some Skinks could be possible.

I think a new butcher/slaughter master is in the cards after the "potbelly" comment. He could have some gnoblar buddies that could become tokens for his generic warscroll in AoS.

Other than that, we know about those Crone Herald and Chaos Dwarves warbands. I think one herald from @Nighthaunt Noobs original leak is still outstanding. I hope it's a Cities Freeguild guy, but I think something like FEC or OBR makes more sense.

 

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10 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

Underworlds warbands generally tend to be based on units or subfactions that already exist in their parent army (unlike Warcry warbands which tend explore new themes), so personally I would look at what units/themes exist already if I wanted to guess future Underworlds warbands. They are also constrained by having to fit on small bases.

Because of this, a Nurgle warband that focuses on demons makes sense to me. I think a Seraphon warband is also still fairly believable, but I'm not sure what the theme would be. The existing Seraphon warband is already a grab-bag of all their Infantry units. Maybe a Kroxigor and some Skinks could be possible.

I think a new butcher/slaughter master is in the cards after the "potbelly" comment. He could have some gnoblar buddies that could become tokens for his generic warscroll in AoS.

Other than that, we know about those Crone Herald and Chaos Dwarves warbands. I think one herald from @Nighthaunt Noobs original leak is still outstanding. I hope it's a Cities Freeguild guy, but I think something like FEC or OBR makes more sense.

 

The potbelly hint could be solved with Nurgle.

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19 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

What can we expect from Warcry, considering that we are "confident" about a new season next summer?

Something like 4-6 warbands in the next 6 months before the next edition? Or is this too optimistic?

I don't think we will see much. I think it will be in a holding pattern for a while so focus can be on Underworlds and Kill Team as they are similar games after a similar market. It will be interesting to see if Warcry becomes or is replaced by Spearhead, but I have a feeling we will see a new edition of Warcry. However I think that's me with my rose tinted specs on looking at the new MDF terrain in Kill Team starter and hoping we see a AOS version of Mordheim.

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42 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

What can we expect from Warcry, considering that we are "confident" about a new season next summer?

Something like 4-6 warbands in the next 6 months before the next edition? Or is this too optimistic?

I am not sure in terms of Warbands but we can see they are already setting up for other releases. They did say they plan to make sure that if it is in AoS you can use it it in Warcry (within reason).

Their latest update covered recent and upcoming armies with Ruination getting rules, Skaven update then we have S2D coming out soon and they focused on the Darkoath rules then we know Orruk Warclans are next and they updated Ironjawz too. With Gitmob looking like they are on the way I would imagine they get their Warcry rules in the next 6 month update which should be April if they don't release rules earlier on war com.

Underworlds are also on the way so we can expect bladeborn rules for those and they did just do a points adjustment for a lot of bladeborn rules too. 

Honestly though since they both don't have one I would not be surprised if IJ or Gitz get a warband soon, maybe IJ so if they do just get the 1 hero battletome release they also have a warcry warband to look forward to.

 

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1 hour ago, Ejecutor said:

What can we expect from Warcry, considering that we are "confident" about a new season next summer?

Something like 4-6 warbands in the next 6 months before the next edition? Or is this too optimistic?

When did Briar & Bone go up for pre-order, July/August? So we're probably due an announcement at some point soon, probably November unless they reveal something on a Monday (which they did for the Fyreslayer warband iirc).

I don't think we'll see anything until 2025 in terms of this season's warbands, just because they'll have a focus on Kill Team and Underworlds, but I reckon we'll see maybe four warbands until the seemingly normal silence leading upto a new edition announcement.

Whether those are individually released warbands off the bat, or we get some more boxsets is anyone's guess I think.

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Warcry =/= Spearhead, and I don't see it going anywhere. It's just taking a hiatus right now - remember, the release schedule for Warcry was at one point more hectic than KT : KT had 1 new KT and one upgrade sprue per trimester, Warcy had 2 new bands.

The release schedule of GW for the end of the year is really strange (focus on specialist games like WHU and LOTR), not seeing Warcry is not shocking. There's probably something waiting in the sidelines for the game.

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3 hours ago, Gaz Taylor said:

I don't think we will see much. I think it will be in a holding pattern for a while so focus can be on Underworlds and Kill Team as they are similar games after a similar market. It will be interesting to see if Warcry becomes or is replaced by Spearhead, but I have a feeling we will see a new edition of Warcry. However I think that's me with my rose tinted specs on looking at the new MDF terrain in Kill Team starter and hoping we see a AOS version of Mordheim.

An AoS Mordheim would be a dream come true! 
 

edit: I really dunno how that statement could be confusing but I‘ll explain: an AoS equivalent to Mordheim, not Mordheim itself warped into the realms. Call it Totschlagheim (we say „Mord und Totschlag“ in German - murder and manslaughter) or whatever. Make it more mysterious like Silent Hill pr take cues from Lovecraft, doesn‘t have to be a copy/paste thing, just a dark, intriguing setting for a game similar to Mordheim. Ideally with a few of its „RPG“ qualities introduced back again - could even be based on WarCry rules! 

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2 hours ago, Gaz Taylor said:

It will be interesting to see if Warcry becomes or is replaced by Spearhead

I think Spearhead muscled into Warcry's territory by having the board size be the same. (Unlike Combat Patrol in 40k which is double the size of Kill Team's board) The game itself has been well received. I think that Warcry could carve out its place by having skirmishes set within dense built-up environments of the Realms (Having a Mordheim-like system set across various city-scapes of the realms would be cool) 

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10 minutes ago, Dindi said:

A friend pointed out to me that it's a 28mm scale version of the epic dark ad mech gun

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Likely too small for that, those things are bigger than knights in 28mm scale and that gun only looks like its on a elite unit or a small vehicle.

It could be for these guys though:

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It doesn't look exactly the same but then again the gun here is tiny so could just be limits in this scale

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26 minutes ago, Dindi said:

A friend pointed out to me that it's a 28mm scale version of the epic dark ad mech gun

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No ****** way, Darkmech, Emperors Children and Chorfs... I feel like a kid in a candy store... but like a kid I ain't got the money for what I want 😮‍💨

The fact that my friend hinted that I probably will be getting something new for my bday (probably kroot) means that I will just have to look at the lovely dark machines. 

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