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On 7/2/2024 at 7:13 PM, petitionercity said:

I don't know why you are arguing this isn't feasible when GW did it from 2015 to 2023 for many models, long after WFB ended? It wasn't more expensive to include them for the customer.

This. It was more expensive by 3 cents per box xD

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17 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said:

So Guess I was thinking particularly about making arcane journals for the legacy factions, as soon as the official ones have come out

and lately my thoughts where about Skaven.

I asked myself which clans would probably make the most sense to represent with the armies of renown edition, and as of lore I think clan skryre and clan Rictus are probably the two clans that where most active during that edition, although for the sake of fun, I wouldn’t say no to a clan moulder and clan pestilence themed armies.

any thoughts?

So someone has already beaten you to this!

https://oldworld.alwaysstrikesfirst.com/

This by Josh Rogers, who created Quartermaster. His Skaven journal is here:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7jh4r2k30ts3bdo492y99/Arcane-Journal-Skaven.pdf?rlkey=kfxyzwxzrjsmo2yrutei6fi8f&dl=0

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Might be worth reaching out to collaborate with?

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7 hours ago, petitionercity said:

So someone has already beaten you to this!

https://oldworld.alwaysstrikesfirst.com/

This by Josh Rogers, who created Quartermaster. His Skaven journal is here:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7jh4r2k30ts3bdo492y99/Arcane-Journal-Skaven.pdf?rlkey=kfxyzwxzrjsmo2yrutei6fi8f&dl=0

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Might be worth reaching out to collaborate with?

Thank you sharing

edit: its very well written.

i doubt I could have done an equal as good or better job them him.

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14 minutes ago, Skreech Verminking said:

Thank you sharing

edit: its very well written.

i doubt I could have done an equal as good or better job them him.

Yes I agree on its quality, and I'm sad no one seems to be aware of it. I shared it on the main tow Facebook group when the Skaven one was posted, but not much reaction :( I do feel the current gen of players are very cautious - and overly dedicated to official rules?

The vampire counts and revised alliance documents are also fab:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/88sk4divvypjzx1lg4f1z/Old-World-Diplomacy.pdf?rlkey=3470o995so60rtt00mbn4nyus&dl=0

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https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9jei13jhr5zsbghgg202e/Arcane-Journal-Vampire-Counts.pdf?rlkey=eosci35wxgk9nxitiknvyb4mo&dl=0

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It's because fanmade content needs you to talk with your group of players and have their agreement to use the said list. It's no problem if you know them for a while, it's more problematic if you don't have a regular group to play with.

It's not specific to TOW. It applies to all games. It's just a social matter, no conspiracy behind.

Also, not everyone agrees with the design choices of the fan creator for the lists. Some have different ideas / views. And let's not talk about the "balance" issue that is an endless debate.

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1 hour ago, Sarouan said:

It's because fanmade content needs you to talk with your group of players and have their agreement to use the said list. It's no problem if you know them for a while, it's more problematic if you don't have a regular group to play with.

It's not specific to TOW. It applies to all games. It's just a social matter, no conspiracy behind.

Also, not everyone agrees with the design choices of the fan creator for the lists. Some have different ideas / views. And let's not talk about the "balance" issue that is an endless debate.

Personally I’m just happy legacy is very much allowed in the tow and hh system.

i mean considering how aos and 40k do have some people incredible against using legacy units even in non tournament games

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3 hours ago, petitionercity said:

Yes I agree on its quality, and I'm sad no one seems to be aware of it. I shared it on the main tow Facebook group when the Skaven one was posted, but not much reaction :( I do feel the current gen of players are very cautious - and overly dedicated to official rules?

The vampire counts and revised alliance documents are also fab:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/88sk4divvypjzx1lg4f1z/Old-World-Diplomacy.pdf?rlkey=3470o995so60rtt00mbn4nyus&dl=0

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https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9jei13jhr5zsbghgg202e/Arcane-Journal-Vampire-Counts.pdf?rlkey=eosci35wxgk9nxitiknvyb4mo&dl=0

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This is super. My main opponent wants to start VC, but I am more focused on the core factions. This gives him a lot more options.

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3 hours ago, Tonhel said:

This is super. My main opponent wants to start VC, but I am more focused on the core factions. This gives him a lot more options.

Yeah a Friend of mine is interested in starting tow with the new skaventide box Sets.

i think he really meeds to see that one pdf

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On 7/4/2024 at 12:41 PM, petitionercity said:

Yes I agree on its quality, and I'm sad no one seems to be aware of it. I shared it on the main tow Facebook group when the Skaven one was posted, but not much reaction :( I do feel the current gen of players are very cautious - and overly dedicated to official rules?

The vampire counts and revised alliance documents are also fab:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/88sk4divvypjzx1lg4f1z/Old-World-Diplomacy.pdf?rlkey=3470o995so60rtt00mbn4nyus&dl=0

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https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9jei13jhr5zsbghgg202e/Arcane-Journal-Vampire-Counts.pdf?rlkey=eosci35wxgk9nxitiknvyb4mo&dl=0

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In my experience people are mostly not interested in anything not official 

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On 7/5/2024 at 12:48 PM, JackStreicher said:

In my experience people are mostly not interested in anything not official 

That is true in certain cases.

i think the moment where the customer is dissatisfied or feels like there is something missing, unofficial stuff gets accepted a lot easier and faster.

 

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Really hope once all the armies are released for TOW we get books like the HH ones. 

The new mars civil war HH looks really good and I'll love to see what they could come up with for TOW. 

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29 minutes ago, Ogregut said:

Really hope once all the armies are released for TOW we get books like the HH ones. 

The new mars civil war HH looks really good and I'll love to see what they could come up with for TOW. 

I think it is the obvious step. Same team, a similar kind of game... I even heard mentions about them, but I cannot remember if it is just us speculating, a YouTube channel or official sources.

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12 hours ago, Ogregut said:

Really hope once all the armies are released for TOW we get books like the HH ones. 

The new mars civil war HH looks really good and I'll love to see what they could come up with for TOW. 

Yeah I’ll have to look into that book.

the admech stuff from hh just looks amazing

also I’m the iron warriors player in that system

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So guys, I was plan-scheming a few list and read a lot of tow rules of late.

I think with the right set up,

poisoned wind globadiers can be hilariously deadly against anything as tough as an ogre.

they may only come with strength two which isn’t the best thing in this game but combine that with spells that decrease the toughness of a unit by 1, and they become really juicy.

i might test them in a 2k game a t some point

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On 7/8/2024 at 6:25 PM, Ogregut said:

Really hope once all the armies are released for TOW we get books like the HH ones. 

The new mars civil war HH looks really good and I'll love to see what they could come up with for TOW. 

Yes , the rumours say that after the release of focus factions , we will have campaign books with GW/FW miniatures.

Rob Alderman is both product manager of Middlearth and ToW inside the specialist studio : so we can expect something similar in terms of campaign books and GW/FW miniatures releases.

This was a quote from a Warcom article : “ Much of the action in the first wave of books and supplements takes place in and around the Border Princes – the barrier lands between the Empire and Orc territory. Accordingly, we will be focusing on nine core factions.”

All arcane journals so far have scenario in and around border princes .

 

 

 

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Bit of a marketing ramble/article for the Dwarf Arcane Journal. Copy and pasted my paste from the Dwarf thread:

  • Runic Tattoos can be taken on Slayers and Doomseekers. They can also be Dogs of War for the Empire.
  • Bugman's Cart 'raises spirits' and Mining Cart is full of blasting charges units can throw out.
  • Miners are important to the Expeditionary Force.
  • Scout Gyrocopters (no bombs but faster) for the Expeditionary Force.
  • Royal Clan don't use black powder but get a bigger rune budget. 
  • Royal Clan Warriors, which they talk about being a minor kitbash of using the hand weapons/shields with on Hammerers.
  • They didn't go a Slayer Cult list because, like Night Goblins, it was 'too obvious' but Ungrim lets you do it (iirc one of the leaks said he makes them Core?)
 
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