undeadheadz Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Paul Buckler said: Completely confused by the flaming weapons? Only the champ is a wizard so only 1 of his weapons gets it. 1 bunch of lance attacks on 2 damage, not sure its worth it. The entire unit has the wizard keyword and is only a wizard when it contains so many models, in that regard it should effect the whole unit as the unit is the caster, at least that's how I'm reading it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfric Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 17 hours ago, Cullen rothery said: Have done 5 dawnriders and it wasn't fun, and have 10 wind chargers so far unpainted, may paint them and proxy the list to see how it works before commiting The Roos have taken me quite a while, I have to say. I think I need to take a break from painting Aelves after them and switch to something a little less exacting - like some of my Kruelboyz waiting to join the Waaagh. Paint up some of them and then return to LRL with more motivation. I need to change it up occasionally to keep it fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Buckler Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 9 hours ago, Cullen rothery said: The entire unit has the wizard keyword and is only a wizard when it contains so many models, in that regard it should effect the whole unit as the unit is the caster, at least that's how I'm reading it Only the Steedmaster gets the WIZARD keyword (p120 Newest LRL book). Even if the unit was a wizard 19.4 says you pick 1 model to be the caster, and then flaming weapons 27.5.3 says the caster's melee weapon. So doesn't work on the unit I am afraid to say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminethMage Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 On 8/10/2021 at 1:54 AM, Maogrim said: Quick question, friends. How important are the banners for Alarith Stone Guard? Would you always bring them, and, if so, how many? If you bring 5 maybe not, a unit of 10 probably yes, but if you also have a Cathallar you might take the risk without it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminethMage Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 On 8/10/2021 at 8:06 AM, Cullen rothery said: Idea for a Helon list, anyone got any suggestions or tweaks they think it may need Allegiance: Lumineth Realm Lords- Great Nation: Helon- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line- Triumphs:LeadersHurakan Windmage (120)**- General- Command Trait: Skyrace Grand Champion- Artefact: Metalith Dust- Lore of the Winds: Transporting VortexScinari Cathallar (145)**- Lore of Hysh: Ethereal BlessingLyrior Uthralle, Warden of Ymetrica (215)**- Lore of Hysh: Lambent LightBattleline10 x Hurakan Windchargers (310)*10 x Hurakan Windchargers (310)*10 x Hurakan Windchargers (310)*Units5 x Vanari Dawnriders (140)**- Spell1: Lore of Hysh: Speed of Hysh5 x Vanari Dawnriders (140)**- Spell1: Universal Spell Lore: Flaming Weapon1 x Hurakan Spirit of the Wind (265)** Endless Spells & InvocationsChronomantic Cogs (45)Core Battalions*Hunters of the Heartlands**WarlordTotal: 2000 / 2000Reinforced Units: 3 / 4Wounds: 106Drops: 9 Is give the Cathallar either Total Eclipse or Protection of Hysh. And Probably the Dawnriders another Lambent Light instead of Flaming Weapon. For redundancy reasons and better coverage. An alternative would be to take the spell enhancement (from the Warlord Battalion) and give everyone two spells to chose from, especially because you also take Cogs. And you could think about upgrading the SofW to Sevireth and downgrading Lyrior to a LR (and lose Cogs if that adds up to more that 2,000). All has upsides, downsides of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undeadheadz Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 On 8/11/2021 at 1:21 AM, Aelfric said: The Roos have taken me quite a while, I have to say. I think I need to take a break from painting Aelves after them and switch to something a little less exacting - like some of my Kruelboyz waiting to join the Waaagh. Paint up some of them and then return to LRL with more motivation. I need to change it up occasionally to keep it fun. Been doing something similar and bouncing between ogors and lumineth, the gold trim on the lumineth is exhausting XD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfric Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Cullen rothery said: Been doing something similar and bouncing between ogors and lumineth, the gold trim on the lumineth is exhausting XD Yes, no more gold trim for a while, that'll be a relief. When I return to Lumineth, the trim will have become a distant memory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undeadheadz Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 On 8/15/2021 at 1:49 PM, Aelfric said: Yes, no more gold trim for a while, that'll be a relief. When I return to Lumineth, the trim will have become a distant memory. until you suddenly remember why you put them down XD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SugarWaterPurple Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 I am so glad I'm not alone burning out on the ridiculous amount of gold trim required for these elves. What is even more cumbersome is the amount of areas each model has that is difficult to get to. If I ever have another army I'm going to pick one with the least amount of detail as possible. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdyhedberg Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 4:30 PM, SugarWaterPurple said: I am so glad I'm not alone burning out on the ridiculous amount of gold trim required for these elves. What is even more cumbersome is the amount of areas each model has that is difficult to get to. If I ever have another army I'm going to pick one with the least amount of detail as possible. I was thinking about that while I was building some kits from the dominion box today. The stormcast models look pretty nice (not the old ones though), and I can see them being pretty easy to paint, or at least those with spears. I love the Lumineth, but Im looking forward to finish my last three bladelords, Lord regent and those last five Dawnriders! I think the only thing I could add to the army, would be Tyrion and perhaps some kind of dragon? I would like some kind of monster, but the mountain is not for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfric Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Howdyhedberg said: I would like some kind of monster, but the mountain is not for me! Sharks are monsters. I've been considering them. At 125 pts, you can take 3 (and there's less trim!). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Edwards Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) My gaming group are starting things up again with an escalation campaign, now covid restrictions are winding down. Details here: https://www.2d6.club/events/aos-escalation-campaign-2022/ The campaign will escalate to 1500pts, any thoughts on my list? I'm hoping to use Transporting Vortex to move my Eltharion or my Wardens where I need them, with Forward to Victory and potentially Bloodthirsty to help with the odds of a teleport + charge move. Allegiance: Lumineth Realm Lords - Great Nation: Zaitrec - Mortal Realm: Hysh - Grand Strategy: Hold the Line - Triumphs: BloodthirstyLeadersHurakan Windmage (120)* - General - Command Trait: Fast Learner - Artefact: Gift of Celennar - Extra Spell: Transporting Vortex - Lore of the Winds: Calming ZephyrScinari Cathallar (145)* - Extra Spell: Lambent Light - Lore of Hysh: Total EclipseThe Light of Eltharion (250)*Vanari Bannerblade (120)* - Artefact: Arcane Tome (Universal Artefact) - Extra Spell: Protection of Hysh - Lore of Hysh: Speed of HyshBattleline20 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (290)** - Lore of Hysh: Ethereal Blessing - Reinforced x 120 x Vanari Auralan Sentinels (300)** - Universal Spell Lore: Ghost-mist - Reinforced x 15 x Vanari Dawnriders (140)** - Lore of Hysh: Speed of HyshUnits5 x Vanari Bladelords (130)*Core Battalions*Warlord**VanguardAdditional EnhancementsArtefactTotal: 1495 / 1500Reinforced Units: 2 / 3Allies: 0 / 300Wounds: 82Drops: 8 Edited August 21, 2021 by John Edwards Added Grand Strategy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maogrim Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 4:30 PM, SugarWaterPurple said: I am so glad I'm not alone burning out on the ridiculous amount of gold trim required for these elves. What is even more cumbersome is the amount of areas each model has that is difficult to get to. If I ever have another army I'm going to pick one with the least amount of detail as possible. Even if Lumineth are a challenge to paint, I think they are also really rewarding in that regard. I just love the moment when it all starts to come together and you realize that all the work you put into it is paying off. Maybe you want to try your hands on some Nighthaunt then? That's a pretty unique army that should be fsirly easy to paint while still looking great. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Edwards Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Anyone know how Flaming Weapon from the universal spell lore interacts with Lumineth units, e.g. Wardens? Would the effect only apply to the unit champion as 'the caster'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azamar Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, John Edwards said: Anyone know how Flaming Weapon from the universal spell lore interacts with Lumineth units, e.g. Wardens? Would the effect only apply to the unit champion as 'the caster'? Yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmorley21 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 17 hours ago, Maogrim said: Even if Lumineth are a challenge to paint, I think they are also really rewarding in that regard. I just love the moment when it all starts to come together and you realize that all the work you put into it is paying off. Maybe you want to try your hands on some Nighthaunt then? That's a pretty unique army that should be fsirly easy to paint while still looking great. As someone who chose Lumineth as a second army after Nighthaunt… yes, this is true. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juno Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 11:28 PM, John Edwards said: My gaming group are starting things up again with an escalation campaign, now covid restrictions are winding down. Details here: https://www.2d6.club/events/aos-escalation-campaign-2022/ The campaign will escalate to 1500pts, any thoughts on my list? I'm hoping to use Transporting Vortex to move my Eltharion or my Wardens where I need them, with Forward to Victory and potentially Bloodthirsty to help with the odds of a teleport + charge move. Allegiance: Lumineth Realm Lords - Great Nation: Zaitrec - Mortal Realm: Hysh - Grand Strategy: Hold the Line - Triumphs: BloodthirstyLeadersHurakan Windmage (120)* - General - Command Trait: Fast Learner - Artefact: Gift of Celennar - Extra Spell: Transporting Vortex - Lore of the Winds: Calming ZephyrScinari Cathallar (145)* - Extra Spell: Lambent Light - Lore of Hysh: Total EclipseThe Light of Eltharion (250)*Vanari Bannerblade (120)* - Artefact: Arcane Tome (Universal Artefact) - Extra Spell: Protection of Hysh - Lore of Hysh: Speed of HyshBattleline20 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (290)** - Lore of Hysh: Ethereal Blessing - Reinforced x 120 x Vanari Auralan Sentinels (300)** - Universal Spell Lore: Ghost-mist - Reinforced x 15 x Vanari Dawnriders (140)** - Lore of Hysh: Speed of HyshUnits5 x Vanari Bladelords (130)*Core Battalions*Warlord**VanguardAdditional EnhancementsArtefactTotal: 1495 / 1500Reinforced Units: 2 / 3Allies: 0 / 300Wounds: 82Drops: 8 I'm not too experienced, so I might be missing something, but I think only the Sentinels unit OR the Dawnriders unit can be Battleline (not both), since there's only one unit of Wardens. However, since you have Scinari character in the Cathallar, the Bladelord unit can become Battleline. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Edwards Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 20 hours ago, Juno said: I'm not too experienced, so I might be missing something, but I think only the Sentinels unit OR the Dawnriders unit can be Battleline (not both), since there's only one unit of Wardens. However, since you have Scinari character in the Cathallar, the Bladelord unit can become Battleline. Thanks for the feedback. Yep, looks like Warscroll builder messed that up. Bladelords, rather than Dawnriders, should be battleline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdyhedberg Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Page 10 – Scinari Loreseeker, Notes Change the Notes to ‘Single, Unique’. Its back to the original spot! Anything else to think about the FAQs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Howdyhedberg said: Page 10 – Scinari Loreseeker, Notes Change the Notes to ‘Single, Unique’. Its back to the original spot! Anything else to think about the FAQs? Giant rats a amazing!!!!! . Edited August 27, 2021 by Skreech Verminking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonnenspeer Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 On 8/21/2021 at 3:23 AM, Aelfric said: Sharks are monsters. I've been considering them. At 125 pts, you can take 3 (and there's less trim!). They lost the monster keyword with BR Morathi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfric Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Sonnenspeer said: They lost the monster keyword with BR Morathi That's a shame. That leaves Teclis or Mountain Spirits then I suppose for Monster options. We may get more in the future, but that won't be any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonnenspeer Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 18 hours ago, Aelfric said: That's a shame. That leaves Teclis or Mountain Spirits then I suppose for Monster options. We may get more in the future, but that won't be any time soon. Don't forget the turtle 🐢 with protection of hysh maybe 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfric Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Sonnenspeer said: Don't forget the turtle 🐢 with protection of hysh maybe 🤔 That's true. Also remembered you can take a Mega-Gargant as well. Not sure how viable either of them are though. The Mega-Gargant is a Hero as well, so could be worth a look. I believe it's Bundo Whalebiter, a Kraken-eater. Edited August 29, 2021 by Aelfric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maogrim Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Rejoice, Scions of the Mountains! Looks like those Archmage-backed 40 wounds of Alarith Stoneguard will be even more resilient for the (probably short) time being. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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