yukishiro1 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Everything to do with battalions in the army builder is a hot mess - how they are displayed on the main screen, how they aren't clearly differentiated if you take more than one of the same battalion, how you choose which slot they go into, etc. Also it doesn't let you choose a generic spell lore spell for an ally wizard, which seems wrong to me unless I've played that wrong all this time - ally wizards still get the spell enhancement, don't they? They just can't take from your faction-specific spell lore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMuphinMan Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) i thought you could take any endless spell in any allegiance but you could only cast them if you had a wizard from that faction but in the stormforge its not letting you take Skaven/StD/BoC endless spells in a nurgle army for example. Is this intentional and I just interpretted the rules wrong or an oversight? Edited September 17, 2021 by TheMuphinMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yukishiro1 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 You can only take endless spells from your main faction. They changed it in 3.0. See 25.7. It's somewhat confusingly worded, but it means that endless spells from different factions aren't part of your pitched battles profile and therefore not something you can take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbei Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I can no longer view allegiance abilities and enhancements for the older battletomes. That was a quick honeymoon. Back to other sources. 😞 On the plus side, it is nice that the warscrolls still show points and that FAQs and core rules are still accessible. I like having these consolidated instead of referencing separate PDFs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yukishiro1 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I can still view all that stuff on iOs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbei Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Weird, I am back to being able to see everything except the things locked by the two new books again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Mackay Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 4 hours ago, yukishiro1 said: Everything to do with battalions in the army builder is a hot mess - how they are displayed on the main screen, how they aren't clearly differentiated if you take more than one of the same battalion, how you choose which slot they go into, etc. Also it doesn't let you choose a generic spell lore spell for an ally wizard, which seems wrong to me unless I've played that wrong all this time - ally wizards still get the spell enhancement, don't they? They just can't take from your faction-specific spell lore? Nope allies don’t get anything except what’s on their warscroll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yukishiro1 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Ah, yeah, you're right. 27.3.1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeblasky Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) Honestly, yea, I kinda do not get why some people said that new app is much better. For rules - sure, it's easier to read them now, once you get used to a simplified version, that's a big plus. But warscrolls are less easier to read due to a new design (too oversimplified), and army builder seems like a pure downgrade if compared to the old one. Units are not organized by their roles, but in the order you take them, you can't see artefacts and spells they take in the main list... Even if this was completely free, I would still use Warscroll Builder or BattleScribe for listbuilding instead. Edited September 17, 2021 by Zeblasky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yukishiro1 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) Yeah, the army builder is really awkward to use. It feels like it was made by someone who doesn't actually play the game and therefore doesn't understand what's actually a useful way to set up an army creator for said game. Warscroll Builder is vastly better. Which makes me more and more afraid they're going to axe it because it makes their paid competition look bad. Edited September 17, 2021 by yukishiro1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Mackay Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 One thing that bothers me about the new app, didn’t they explicitly say that they built the new app because Path To Glory wasn’t compatible with the old app? And yet the new app doesn’t currently support Path To Glory either, and the 40K app still doesn’t support Crusade. they should have maintained the old app until Path To Glory was supported by the new app and THEN replaced it. there are things I like and prefer about each app, but I think overall the old one was better. the issues I have with the new app are: -tablet screens not supported, so you end up with black bars around the edges and only half the screen is used -list builder doesn’t incorporate weapon options -list builder by default has all possible ally units listed when you go to add units to your list, you can filter them out, but I think personally it should have been the other way round. -it has nothing like the My Battle feature of the old app. You can access the warscrolls in the list builder, but it requires an extra step that My Battle didn’t. -when you exit out of a warscroll, it takes you back to the top of the list of warscrolls (a massive pain for Stormcast who have 50 heroes to scroll through before you get to the other units) -like the old app, the model image for the Warden King is a very old metal one rather than the current plastic model (not a big deal, just something that’s always bothered me and they carried it forward to the new app as well) -you need a constant internet connection (wifi or mobile data) to use the app, as it’s programmed to check your subscription status upon opening the app (although the app is currently free, the function of checking subscription status is built into the app, so without internet it will give you an error message and you can’t do anything) things I like about the new app: -unlike the 40K one, you can rotate it into landscape rather than locked to portrait -unlike the 40K one, when updates apply to a battletome via another book (eg Broken Realms), those changes are reflected in the battletome section as well, proved the update replaced something (eg a new warscroll) -unlike Azyr, the list builder seems to be mostly correct and functions as intended (I gave up on Azyr and just used Warscroll Builder because there were too many errors and slow to update it) -I think the presentation is a bit better, and the warscrolls are a big improvement over the old app -this app feels like more effort has gone into it, despite the few issues it has, which should be a good sign for the future 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I would say I have one of the larger phones. Galaxy Note20 5g Ultra...and the format is messed up unless I flip it horizontally. Slightly annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) Looking around the app, is there somewhere to look up which factions a faction can take allies from? The rules say they are listed at the bottom of the pitch battle profiles but I can't see them there. So is this info on the app and if so where? Edit: is it a case of using the army builder and seeing which other units are available? Which seems kind of clunky if that's the only way. Edited September 18, 2021 by EntMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayniac Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) Is the core book (e.g. from Dominion) supposed to have a code to unlock it in the app? the new app has like Core Battalions locked and says: Quote If you own a copy of Warhammer Age of Sigmar Core Book you can access this content. Find out more on our official website. but there's no code. Just an oversight (pretty big one IMHO)? I have to say, so far not too thrilled with this app compared to Azyr. Also the fact there's no way to edit the size/etc. of an army list, you have to delete and recreate it. Edited September 19, 2021 by wayniac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yukishiro1 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 My core battalions aren't locked (on iOs). Sounds like there's all sorts of weirdness going on for people with stuff being locked vs not locked, see Orbei's post above too for example. Really strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayniac Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Definitely strange. For now at least logging out and back in fixed it, but... yeah, app is definitely buggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I still create a list with more then 1 endless spell.. you got same problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbei Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 The locking of things behind battletomes has remained a consistent issue for me. It is generally fixed when I close the app and reopen it. Its an interesting preview of how useful the app will be to me once this becomes a feature rather than a bug: not very. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuneBrush Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Make sure you're feeding all the bugs back through the survey form Gaz posted in an earlier reply. App is only in Beta so if we don't feed the bugs back they won't get fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amysrevenge Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 On 9/17/2021 at 8:31 PM, Malakithe said: I would say I have one of the larger phones. Galaxy Note20 5g Ultra...and the format is messed up unless I flip it horizontally. Slightly annoying. Oh no, that's the phone I have. Definitely waiting for y'all beta testers to finish up before I start paying haha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Guys with warhammer+ i can have new books aviable on aos app? For exemple new stormcast and warcan books? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Taylor Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, Tizianolol said: Guys with warhammer+ i can have new books aviable on aos app? For exemple new stormcast and warcan books? Only if you buy those books. There is a code in the back of them but at the moment you can make lists and see scrolls. All other books you can see but you will need to sign up to the Warhammer+ service once the beta finishes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Ok i thought i could see rules on new books too.. thats sad:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) Is there somewhere to report errors in content in the new app to GW? And do we know how often they will be updating it? I have noticed in the app that Aetherwings, Gryph Hounds and Flagellants have a save of 0 rather than '-' I assume this is a mistake rather than Sigmar blessing these loyal servants with sigmarite skin! Edited October 8, 2021 by EntMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaiko888 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I saw it now says you need the battletomes to see the rules for older armies. Does this mean you need Warhammer+ or how do you get the battletomes ? Says the same thing for the core rules artefacts too. Didn't see this posted anywhere . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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