Chikout Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said: We've still not seen the blunderbuss weapon on anything right? At least, it doesn't look like the one the Fjusil Marshals had. So there must still be more stuff yet to be previewed. That's what I'm saying. We've seen six kits so far. It looks like we're getting at least seven more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asbestress Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 A big happy family. Really interested in (what look to be) another 6-8 kits coming! That Warforger will really fit in nicely thematically with my Greywater army I reckon. 11 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 27 minutes ago, Chikout said: That's what I'm saying. We've seen six kits so far. It looks like we're getting at least seven more. I would say these are likely kits: Handgunners/Crossbowmen Flagellants Elite infantry (Greatswords) Cannon Religious centerpiece (war altar) We might also see mounted gunpowder units again (Pistoliers/Outriders). So at least seven kits is very realistic if we see one more new unit like a generic Witch Hunter kit. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Sigmarite Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Looking at the orders, you see there's some elf and dwarf only orders. I guess that tells mixed race units are not going to happen... You only get human, elf or dwarf only units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Lost Sigmarite said: Looking at the orders, you see there's some elf and dwarf only orders. I guess that tells mixed race units are not going to happen... You only get human, elf or dwarf only units. I think that will be true for the initial release. But it is a keyword based system, and nothing is stopping GW from releasing a unit with all three keywords at once (HUMAN, AELF and DUARDIN) sometime down the line. I could see this in Warcry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Sigmarite Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: I think that will be true for the initial release. But it is a keyword based system, and nothing is stopping GW from releasing a unit with all three keywords at once (HUMAN, AELF and DUARDIN) sometime down the line. I could see this in Warcry. Or maybe we get sigmarite Duardins and Aelves in a 2nd wave in 4th edition... Yeah I know the first wave isn't even out that I'm thinking about the second one but I feel like something will need to be done for the current elf/dwarf kits of Cities. But for now, they hang out and that's ok. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyshadow Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Is this right for the base sizes? - Marshal and Warforger on 32 mm - Cavaliers on 60 x 35 mm - Freeguild Steelhelms on 25 mm Quite like that the big important characters have larger bases than the rank and file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 12 hours ago, Asbestress said: They look really good! It'a going to be hard to resist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth 🍄 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 The Lioness on Manticore is a downright gorgeous model, wow 😍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draznak Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 On 7/1/2023 at 4:56 PM, Chikout said: The article mentions that the new book has 54 warscrolls. On the app there are currently 63 warscrolls. I may have made a mistake, but I currently have 61 warscrolls in COS : Spoiler 1. Galen Ven Denst 2. Doralia Ven Denst 3. Flagellants 4. Battlemage 5. Freeguild general on griffon 6. Battlemage on griffon 7. Luminark of Hysh 8. Luminark with white mage 9. Celestial Hurricanum 10. Celestial Hurricanum with celestial mage 11. Steamtank 12. Steam tank with commander 13. Warden king 14. Runelord 15. Longbeards 16. Irondrakes 17. Ironbreakers 18. Hammerers 19. Cogsmith 20. Gyrocopters 21. Gyrobombers 22. Sorceress on black dragon 23. Sorceress 24. Black guard 25. Executionners 26. Bleakswords 27. Dreadspears 28. Darkshards 29. Drakespawn chariots 30. Drakespawn knights 31. Assassin 32. Dark riders 33. Kharibdyss 34. Black ark fleetmaster 35. Black ark corsairs 36. Scourgerunners chariots 37. Dreadlord on black dragon 38. War hydra 39. Shadow warriors *from there, warscrolls that will disappear I think 40. Anointed 41. Phoenix guard 42. Frostheart phoenix 43. Flamespyre phoenix 44. Anointed on frostheart phoenix 45. Anointed on flamespyre phoenix 46. Nomad prince 47. Eternal Guard 48. Wildwood rangers 49. Wild riders 50. Sisters of the watch 51. Sisters of the thorn 52. Freeguild general 53. Demigryph knights 54. Freeguild greatswords 55. Freeguild guard 56. Freeguild outriders 57. Freeguild pistoliers 58. Freeguild handgunners 59. Freeguild crossbowmen 60. Helblaster volley gun 61. Helstorm rocket battery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 48 minutes ago, Draznak said: I may have made a mistake, but I currently have 61 warscrolls in COS : Hide contents 1. Galen Ven Denst 2. Doralia Ven Denst 3. Flagellants 4. Battlemage 5. Freeguild general on griffon 6. Battlemage on griffon 7. Luminark of Hysh 8. Luminark with white mage 9. Celestial Hurricanum 10. Celestial Hurricanum with celestial mage 11. Steamtank 12. Steam tank with commander 13. Warden king 14. Runelord 15. Longbeards 16. Irondrakes 17. Ironbreakers 18. Hammerers 19. Cogsmith 20. Gyrocopters 21. Gyrobombers 22. Sorceress on black dragon 23. Sorceress 24. Black guard 25. Executionners 26. Bleakswords 27. Dreadspears 28. Darkshards 29. Drakespawn chariots 30. Drakespawn knights 31. Assassin 32. Dark riders 33. Kharibdyss 34. Black ark fleetmaster 35. Black ark corsairs 36. Scourgerunners chariots 37. Dreadlord on black dragon 38. War hydra 39. Shadow warriors *from there, warscrolls that will disappear I think 40. Anointed 41. Phoenix guard 42. Frostheart phoenix 43. Flamespyre phoenix 44. Anointed on frostheart phoenix 45. Anointed on flamespyre phoenix 46. Nomad prince 47. Eternal Guard 48. Wildwood rangers 49. Wild riders 50. Sisters of the watch 51. Sisters of the thorn 52. Freeguild general 53. Demigryph knights 54. Freeguild greatswords 55. Freeguild guard 56. Freeguild outriders 57. Freeguild pistoliers 58. Freeguild handgunners 59. Freeguild crossbowmen 60. Helblaster volley gun 61. Helstorm rocket battery You're missing Hexbane and his hunters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyantheFett Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 59 minutes ago, Draznak said: I may have made a mistake, but I currently have 61 warscrolls in COS : Reveal hidden contents 1. Galen Ven Denst 2. Doralia Ven Denst 3. Flagellants 4. Battlemage 5. Freeguild general on griffon 6. Battlemage on griffon 7. Luminark of Hysh 8. Luminark with white mage 9. Celestial Hurricanum 10. Celestial Hurricanum with celestial mage 11. Steamtank 12. Steam tank with commander 13. Warden king 14. Runelord 15. Longbeards 16. Irondrakes 17. Ironbreakers 18. Hammerers 19. Cogsmith 20. Gyrocopters 21. Gyrobombers 22. Sorceress on black dragon 23. Sorceress 24. Black guard 25. Executionners 26. Bleakswords 27. Dreadspears 28. Darkshards 29. Drakespawn chariots 30. Drakespawn knights 31. Assassin 32. Dark riders 33. Kharibdyss 34. Black ark fleetmaster 35. Black ark corsairs 36. Scourgerunners chariots 37. Dreadlord on black dragon 38. War hydra 39. Shadow warriors *from there, warscrolls that will disappear I think 40. Anointed 41. Phoenix guard 42. Frostheart phoenix 43. Flamespyre phoenix 44. Anointed on frostheart phoenix 45. Anointed on flamespyre phoenix 46. Nomad prince 47. Eternal Guard 48. Wildwood rangers 49. Wild riders 50. Sisters of the watch 51. Sisters of the thorn 52. Freeguild general 53. Demigryph knights 54. Freeguild greatswords 55. Freeguild guard 56. Freeguild outriders 57. Freeguild pistoliers 58. Freeguild handgunners 59. Freeguild crossbowmen 60. Helblaster volley gun 61. Helstorm rocket battery I personally count around 69 warscrolls, but I'm throwing in hexbane and the six solos from cursed city. That would be a loss of around 15 warscrolls. 12 or 13 of those will the whole wood and high elf line. We don't know how many new units we are getting, but it is interesting to see if either we are getting a lot more or they did not cut as much as everyone thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 what is the third warscroll behind warforger ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightbox Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Depending on the cost for the new CoS boxset I'm actually pretty interested in it! Gonna need to try and find a female head for the marshall (can probably pilfer a sisters of battle one or just get a 3rd party head) but otherwise the models all look really cool and it seems like a nice boxset giving you 2 of your battleline, some heroes and heavy cavalry. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulcanelli Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 On 7/1/2023 at 6:03 PM, The Lost Sigmarite said: We had a new sigmarite cult revealed today - the Cult Unberogen - so I think sigmarite goodness will happen. Interesting, it's the first mention in AoS of this Cult, right? In The World-That-Was the Unberogens were a powerful tribe of human barbarians settled in the lands of Reikland, before the Empire was a thing. They were the ancestors of 'modern' empire men; in fact Sigmar was called Sigmar Unberogen when he was born, his father was Bjorn Unberogen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, cyrus said: what is the third warscroll behind warforger ?? Maybe the knights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 9 hours ago, Draznak said: I may have made a mistake, but I currently have 61 warscrolls in COS : Reveal hidden contents 1. Galen Ven Denst 2. Doralia Ven Denst 3. Flagellants 4. Battlemage 5. Freeguild general on griffon 6. Battlemage on griffon 7. Luminark of Hysh 8. Luminark with white mage 9. Celestial Hurricanum 10. Celestial Hurricanum with celestial mage 11. Steamtank 12. Steam tank with commander 13. Warden king 14. Runelord 15. Longbeards 16. Irondrakes 17. Ironbreakers 18. Hammerers 19. Cogsmith 20. Gyrocopters 21. Gyrobombers 22. Sorceress on black dragon 23. Sorceress 24. Black guard 25. Executionners 26. Bleakswords 27. Dreadspears 28. Darkshards 29. Drakespawn chariots 30. Drakespawn knights 31. Assassin 32. Dark riders 33. Kharibdyss 34. Black ark fleetmaster 35. Black ark corsairs 36. Scourgerunners chariots 37. Dreadlord on black dragon 38. War hydra 39. Shadow warriors *from there, warscrolls that will disappear I think 40. Anointed 41. Phoenix guard 42. Frostheart phoenix 43. Flamespyre phoenix 44. Anointed on frostheart phoenix 45. Anointed on flamespyre phoenix 46. Nomad prince 47. Eternal Guard 48. Wildwood rangers 49. Wild riders 50. Sisters of the watch 51. Sisters of the thorn 52. Freeguild general 53. Demigryph knights 54. Freeguild greatswords 55. Freeguild guard 56. Freeguild outriders 57. Freeguild pistoliers 58. Freeguild handgunners 59. Freeguild crossbowmen 60. Helblaster volley gun 61. Helstorm rocket battery Going off 41 returning warscrolls (the ones you listed plus Hexbane and his hunters), I think the following is a reasonable prediction for the 13 new warscrolls: Units Steelhelms Cavalliers Handgunners (Castellites/Fussiliers) Flagellants Elites (Greatswords/Big Axe guys) Characters Marshall Alchemite Warforger Fussil-Major on Warhulk Warpriest Behemoths Tahlia Vedra on Manticore War Altar/Big Religious Thing (Carried by Cult of the Wheel guys) Cannon Adds up to 12 so far. Plausible candidates for the last warscrolls are new Outriders, Crossbows, or a generic Manticore warscroll. We might see more units if more legacy kits get cut (like the Gyrocopter or something from the Dark Elf range). We might see fewer if units like Demigryph Knights stick around. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Do you think that regular battlemages will stay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 minute ago, michu said: Do you think that regular battlemages will stay? I personally think they will stay. Whitefang said Collegiate Arcane is safe. They might not have unlimited shelf life, but for now I would be surprised if they were removed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Sigmarite Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Well I guess we have an official confirmation the Dispossessed are here to stay. They don't look bad at all next to the new Cities humans. I think it's because the new Freeguild look more "dwarven" in appearance with their heavier armour, and so they blend well next to these 10 y/o duardin minis. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Just now, The Lost Sigmarite said: Well I guess we have an official confirmation the Dispossessed are here to stay. They don't look bad at all next to the new Cities humans. I think it's because the new Freeguild look more "dwarven" in appearance with their heavier armour, and so they blend well next to these 10 y/o duardin minis. Up-armouring the Freeguild definitely ties the remaining factions together a lot better. Kind of makes me more enthusiastic about mixing them up. I hope Dispossessed stick close to their current look if they ever get a refresh. "Traditionalist dwarves" is definitely a niche that should be served somewhere. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Lost Sigmarite said: Well I guess we have an official confirmation the Dispossessed are here to stay. They don't look bad at all next to the new Cities humans. I think it's because the new Freeguild look more "dwarven" in appearance with their heavier armour, and so they blend well next to these 10 y/o duardin minis. I can't work out if that's a new paint job on the Irondrakes. Looks a bit different from on the webstore but might be just the lighting and the mist effect. Whatever, they still look great and not at all out of place with the New Cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Sigmarite Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: Up-armouring the Freeguild definitely ties the remaining factions together a lot better. Kind of makes me more enthusiastic about mixing them up. I hope Dispossessed stick close to their current look if they ever get a refresh. "Traditionalist dwarves" is definitely a niche that should be served somewhere. Between the king, runesmith and engineer, and the ironbreakers, longbeards, hammerers, irondrakes and the 2 versions of the copters, Dispossessed have themselves a cohesive little roster within CoS with very good middlehammer sculpts. And yes, their vibe and aesthetic is "classic" enough for dwarves (beards, runes, heavy armor, wondruous contraptions) to blend anywhere. To be fair I'm fine with Dispossessed staying the way they are. The photo shows they're very fine as is. Maybe getting a mixed dwarf/human cannon crew would be cool to give them and the humans something. 2 minutes ago, EntMan said: I can't work out if that's a new paint job on the Irondrakes. Looks a bit different from on the webstore but might be just the lighting and the mist effect. Whatever, they still look great and not at all out of place with the New Cities. It's the webstore minis imo, all the colors are the same, they just look a bit more vivid on the photo because its likely been altered. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asbestress Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, The Lost Sigmarite said: Well I guess we have an official confirmation the Dispossessed are here to stay. They don't look bad at all next to the new Cities humans. I think it's because the new Freeguild look more "dwarven" in appearance with their heavier armour, and so they blend well next to these 10 y/o duardin minis. Bit disappointed that they don't have a new paint job. Still, good to see some confirmation that my Dispossessed will stay playable for a while yet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Lost Sigmarite said: Between the king, runesmith and engineer, and the ironbreakers, longbeards, hammerers, irondrakes and the 2 versions of the copters, Dispossessed have themselves a cohesive little roster within CoS with very good middlehammer sculpts. The Cogsmith/Engineer hasn't been available outside the Start Collecting for some time now. Which is a shame as imho he's the best of the 3 dwarf heroes in Cities. Hopefully he'll stay available in some way if the SC goes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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