Clan's Cynic Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 No new models, at least in resin, is... strange, but I suppose WoC were one of the most fleshed out ranges in terms of characters circa 8th edition. I kind of expected a Lord on Dragon as a plastic centrepiece though. Then again Orcs & Goblins only got the Black Orc Bigboss and a special character which seemed thin on the ground. I wonder if their sculptors are struggling to keep up with the momentum of a new wave every few months. I'm guessing they'll 'backfill' with future supplement books ALA Horus Heresy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolfrig Bearhide Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 To be fair, warriors of chaos have been happily supported by recent AoS lately. A dragon would have been nice, but I wouldn’t say they’ve been done dirty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Skarsnik Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) ...the noise was also that the release, including the arcane journal, is very disappointing, and Chaos Warriors still aren't good even with the AJ fwiw But yeah idk what new models would have been good unless they were going to finally do an actual honest to god good Chaos Marauder regiment. There are so many chaos lord/warrior/sorceror/exalted hero minis from recent AOS that there'd be a lot of redundancy doing the same kind of resin single minis the released factions have received so far Edited August 12 by Jefferson Skarsnik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatforce Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) No new dragon is really odd. Absolutely baffling that TKs got a dragon but WoC didn't, I wonder if HEs get the same, which would be even more silly. Also am I reading correctly that Galrouch is getting a profile but no model release? Or are there more models to come after the second wave they mentioned? Edit plus it appears that if you don't own a Chaos Lord on dragon you have to kitbash one, again unless I am missing something? Edited August 12 by Goatforce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 1 hour ago, Ejecutor said: They are coming! Old World Almanack – Warriors of Chaos Assemble for the Dark Gods - Warhammer Community (warhammer-community.com) The back picture pattern was right ! No new miniatures is bad . A Norscan hero would have been nice since there is a norscan army of infamy ( wolves of the sea) . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Just now, cyrus said: The back picture pattern was right ! No new miniatures is bad . A Norscan hero would have been nice since there is a norscan army of infamy ( wolves of the sea) . Let's see what the back of that book looks like... but the most interesting one will be the very last one released. Maybe it has a leak! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronos Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Great art, and a cool looking Chaos Dragon - New kit to allow for a mounted lord and a Galrauch Build? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Kronos said: Great art, and a cool looking Chaos Dragon - New kit to allow for a mounted lord and a Galrauch Build? It would have been announced in the post, IMO. The only hope is that they announce ToW for NOVA. Edited August 12 by Ejecutor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 14 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: Let's see what the back of that book looks like... but the most interesting one will be the very last one released. Maybe it has a leak! If rumors are right then we should have Fall 2024 : WoC ( just confirmed) Winter 2024 : HE Spring 2025: Beastmen or WE Summer 2025: WE or Beastmen Fall 2025: Empire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Skarsnik Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) Empire next then High Elves, Beastmen and Wood Elves (edit: this is what the source who said WOC was imminent with an underwhelming release said is the planned order) I'm hoping Empire is a bit more of a substantial release - it was probably scoped as a big focus at the start if the project when it seemed to be more focused in scope, and they need some amateur wizards and generals that aren't covered in Karl Franz iconography. They have a bit of a similar problem to Dwarfs and WOC in that they have some fairly unfun infantry that kind of need a shot in the arm from an Arcane Journal Edited August 12 by Jefferson Skarsnik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Just now, Jefferson Skarsnik said: Empire next then High Elves, Beastmen and Wood Elves I'm hoping Empire is a bit more of a substantial release - it was probably scoped as a big focus at the start if the project when it seemed to be more focused in scope, and they need some amateur wizards and generals that aren't covered in Karl Franz iconography. They have a bit of a similar problem to Dwarfs and WOC in that they have some fairly unfun infantry that kind of need a shot in the arm from an Arcane Journal Where did you hear this? All the times I've heard next is HE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Skarsnik Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) See page 19 Or: Edited August 12 by Jefferson Skarsnik 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 2 hours ago, Bolfrig Bearhide said: To be fair, warriors of chaos have been happily supported by recent AoS lately. A dragon would have been nice, but I wouldn’t say they’ve been done dirty. That's very true, but when they're going out of their way to separate the lines like this I wouldn't have thought FW want people buying AoS kits for use with TOW as it doesn't register as a sale for 'their' game (and vice versa). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 I think there might be two factors with WoC, firstly they were a consistent top seller in warhammer, which means they both have a decent range already, and will probably sell well even with minimal effort , secondly they have a big (see point the first) AoS range which all but the most rabid fans will be drawing on, or have already been building armies with whilst waiting, and they dont want to encourage that so the faction will be a low focus. Also, i think a lot of the "new" models for OW might have been old sculpts that didnt get greenlit for whatever reason, we know its true for the Bret Cat lord and i cant imagine hes a unique case if they were diving through the old reject boxes. Really hoping we get Empire sooner rather than later, the core list is very bland and i want civil war deets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jator Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Great news. The battalion looks like a good starting point for a chaos army, and I'm really curious about those "armies of infamy". Hopefully they won't take as long to be released as dwarfs were from their announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorticulusTGA Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 18 hours ago, Kronos said: Great art, and a cool looking Chaos Dragon - New kit to allow for a mounted lord and a Galrauch Build? Love that cover! Really tempted to use the Warpfire Dragon as a Galrauch Proxy .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronos Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 (edited) I was watching Rob on “Square Based”. In the video he said, and I may be misremembering so apologies if not correct- The popularity of Old World has pushed for a quicker turn around in getting re returning models and Unreleased journals out. GW want to keep pace with the Old World momentum and get as many armies out as possible and later fleshing out characters and some of those newer kits (if indeed they get one). This doesn’t sound unrealistic to me, and actually sounds better, get more people and factions involved and then give them all their new shiny bits and bobs. Edited August 13 by Kronos 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 11 hours ago, Kronos said: I was watching Rob on “Square Based”. In the video he said, and I may be misremembering so apologies if not correct- The popularity of Old World has pushed for a quicker turn around in getting re returning models and Unreleased journals out. GW want to keep pace with the Old World momentum and get as many armies out as possible and later fleshing out characters and some of those newer kits (if indeed they get one). This doesn’t sound unrealistic to me, and actually sounds better, get more people and factions involved and then give them all their new shiny bits and bobs. I mean that does sound possible. I personally just don’t know but Imm certain will see more in the future no matter what path gw takes, considering they themself stated that they are interested in keeping support up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaRegis Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 All WOC needed was an arcane journal and returning kits. Thats it. The old models still hold up really well, and the STD models are basicly carbon copies from OW designs. The Lack of a chaos dragon model makes sense from a design point of view and sticks with the treatment most of the armies have had so far, that being rules for models that don't exist (which i like). Bretonnia don't have a Hypogryth model or a sergeant at Arms, and Tomb Guard chariots have never had models. Of the remaining factions i think only really the Empire warrant a sizeable release. Most of the high elves hold up really well (except the Spearmen and Silverhelms). Beastmen deserve new chariots, minos, razorgors etc, but with GW recyling really old kits i don't think thats likely. Wood elves will probaly the the WOC treatment, with recyled kits, but I do think they should get an new Ariel and maybe a glade lord on Eagle or something. Then again who knows. Bretonnia and TK weren't exaclty hugly popular armies back in the day and both got sizeable updates, so GW could just decide to suprise everyone with a bunch of new models. With the exception of Space marines GW aren't very consistent, and I do think a lot of fans read to much into GW behaviour as a company and its schedules. AOS and 40k have a strict wysiwyg and for whatever reason OW has gone the complete opposite direction, along with HH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonhel Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Rob also said that he expects pre-orders for WoC announced this sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 9 minutes ago, Tonhel said: Rob also said that he expects pre-orders for WoC announced this sunday. Wow. That would be surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 30 minutes ago, Tonhel said: Rob also said that he expects pre-orders for WoC announced this sunday. That be a really quick turnaround! Dwarf went up the other week after months of waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonhel Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, Ejecutor said: Wow. That would be surprising. It is not based on anything. He and Val said they expected pre-order 24/08/24. I agree that it seems very unlikely. But there are rumours that GW wants to get the AJs + old mini's released a lot faster. We will know soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonhel Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) I just saw this on facebook about IVC2 sales for spring 2024. With only 3 factions released in that window this seems good news. At least for TOW sales in the USA. Selling better than the other specialist games. That said. It's ofcourse no RAW data and it's only from independent USA retailers/distributors. Edited August 14 by Tonhel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 6 minutes ago, Tonhel said: I just saw this on facebook about IVC2 sales for spring 2024. With only 3 factions released in that window this seems good news. At least for TOW sales in the USA. Selling better than the other specialist games. That said. It's ofcourse no RAW data and it's only from independent USA retailers/distributors. Uhh. I will share this with some GW haters. Ty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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