Tonhel Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 29 minutes ago, michu said: They did cheekily mention a HE delay What is still missing for the Dwarven mountain holds? Or is this a reference for the made to order that's on pre-order this saturday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 The latter I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonhel Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 This kind of roadmap feels a bit outdate or late. I mean, it would have made a lot more sense that this roadmap was the week before the monday Warhammer community article that announced WoC and certainly before the pre-orders of WoC and made to order dwarfs. After WoC it's atleast 14 weeks before The Empire, if it is released mid january 2025. Sadly we are back to the drought that was from O&G to Dwarfen mountain holds. 😞 There goes picking up the pace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 At least we know something. And I can focus on my Eschers without surprise Empire release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarouan Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 2 hours ago, michu said: They did cheekily mention a HE delay Yeah, this is a jab at the youtubers with their so-called "trusted sources". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 3 hours ago, michu said: Yes! New stuff for Empire! And I think we're going to see Aislinn! My Lothern Sea Patrol might be a reality! Also, for Empire mention new minis, in plural, but for HE a new character. So maybe just a new hero. And they mention delays for HE, so this smells to me that the had no new minis at all and decided last second to delay it so at least there's one new hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, Tonhel said: This kind of roadmap feels a bit outdate or late. I mean, it would have made a lot more sense that this roadmap was the week before the monday Warhammer community article that announced WoC and certainly before the pre-orders of WoC and made to order dwarfs. After WoC it's atleast 14 weeks before The Empire, if it is released mid january 2025. Sadly we are back to the drought that was from O&G to Dwarfen mountain holds. 😞 There goes picking up the pace. Maybe it was supposed to be shown during Gen Con. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 13 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: Also, for Empire mention new minis, in plural, but for HE a new character. So maybe just a new hero. And they mention delays for HE, so this smells to me that the had no new minis at all and decided last second to delay it so at least there's one new hero. Definitely Aislinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarouan Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Not like it matters. But yeah, I called it in the rumor thread, roadmaps are useless. This one especially is because it's so vague, it's just to put Valrak and the likes back to the place they belong - in the entertainment bin. Warhammer Community is the only trusted source for rumors. Reason is certainly because logistic situation is so uncertain right now they don't want to corner themselves by giving a month they won't be sure to fulfill. I don't think people understand how much work and time needed it is to put back production of whole Warhammer factions like Empire, even if it's just old models. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 For me the ToW one was the most useful. At least we know the next two factions and that they will receive new stuff. And 2025, nothing more for this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrus Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 So I was right : No Teclis and Tyrion but Sealord commander together with returning Sea patrol list and Merwyrm : Quote Following a little while behind (delayed by some delicious intrigue at court) are the High Elves, Merwyrming their way back in with their own host of classic kits plus a nautical new character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarouan Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 31 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: At least we know the next two factions and that they will receive new stuff. Knowing what are the next 2 factions is irrelevant, since you can't buy the models until they are released anyway. It's justification for the inevitable deception of the roadmap being useless. Always the same pattern every single time, and yet people keep asking for more of it even though the answer (and deception) will not change. I'm sure now people will try to know what is next after High Elves. It's pointless and has no end. Just enjoy what is available now and not caring about the future is the best result, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 7 minutes ago, Sarouan said: Knowing what are the next 2 factions is irrelevant, since you can't buy the models until they are released anyway. It's justification for the inevitable deception of the roadmap being useless. Always the same pattern every single time, and yet people keep asking for more of it even though the answer (and deception) will not change. I'm sure now people will try to know what is next after High Elves. It's pointless and has no end. Just enjoy what is available now and not caring about the future is the best result, IMHO. I find it useful. So for me it is enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarouan Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 3 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: I find it useful. So for me it is enough. Then blessed you are. But is it really enough for you ? Aren't you wondering about what will come after High Elves already ? As for myself, my project with dwarves is near completion, I will soon have the joy to play a siege against a dwarf fortress ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Just now, Sarouan said: Then blessed you are. But is it really enough for you ? Aren't you wondering about what will come after High Elves already ? As for myself, my project with dwarves is near completion, I will soon have the joy to play a siege against a dwarf fortress ! Not really. So far I only care about what new minis could the Empire bring. Then the long wait for new armies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaRegis Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 16 minutes ago, Sarouan said: I'm sure now people will try to know what is next after High Elves. It's pointless and has no end. Just enjoy what is available now and not caring about the future is the best result, IMHO. We already know what's coming after High elves. It's the Wood elves and Beastmen, as they were announced way back before TK and Bret's were released. We don't have a release date or hints of what's coming which puts them in almost the same boat as Empire and High elves, as all we have are vague hints. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonhel Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 14 minutes ago, AquaRegis said: We already know what's coming after High elves. It's the Wood elves and Beastmen, as they were announced way back before TK and Bret's were released. We don't have a release date or hints of what's coming which puts them in almost the same boat as Empire and High elves, as all we have are vague hints. Lol, yeah. And isn't even a mystery. It will be WoC, Empire, High Elves, Beastmen and Wood Elves. It will be in that order. They could just have added it. But no, they want to be vague just to be vague. The whole show was a big fail. One of the worst they did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejecutor Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 11 minutes ago, Tonhel said: Lol, yeah. And isn't even a mystery. It will be WoC, Empire, High Elves, Beastmen and Wood Elves. It will be in that order. They could just have added it. But no, they want to be vague just to be vague. The whole show was a big fail. One of the worst they did. IMO Beasts will be the last one. Also, it is sad that the pattern from the shields wasn't followed to the very last release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonhel Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 13 minutes ago, Ejecutor said: IMO Beasts will be the last one. Also, it is sad that the pattern from the shields wasn't followed to the very last release I put beastmen for Wood elves, because Empire and High Elves are two forces of fantasy in a row. So it seems much more plausible that it's Beastmen instead of a third one from the forces of fantasy book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathrut Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) 6 hours ago, Tonhel said: What is still missing for the Dwarven mountain holds? Or is this a reference for the made to order that's on pre-order this saturday? The wording suggests the faction, not a MTO. And yeah, there's no mystery about which factions are after High Elves, we know it's Beastmen and Wood Elves. It's also funny how the article gave more information than the stream, such as new miniatures for Empire (hopefully more than just resin units/characters), and a new character for High Elves. High Elves being delayed is interesting, as it would explain why the shield pattern has been broken. Edited August 29 by Sathrut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatforce Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 10 hours ago, Goatforce said: Either way I cannot wait to see the roadmap! Will likely make a lot of things clearer! Well my bad, that show was awful. Why the hell did I stay up until 2am to watch that?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarouan Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 52 minutes ago, Sathrut said: The wording suggests the faction, not a MTO. Not all dwarf kits are currently available for sale at the time of the preview, that's all that means (pre-order is still not release day ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Skarsnik Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 High Elves may have been delayed but it's not a recent thing as it was known for some months that Empire would be after WOC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonhel Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 10 minutes ago, Sarouan said: Not all dwarf kits are currently available for sale at the time of the preview, that's all that means (pre-order is still not release day ). Which makes it even more a joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathrut Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Sarouan said: Not all dwarf kits are currently available for sale at the time of the preview, that's all that means (pre-order is still not release day ). While true, the text for Dwarfs sound like they're talking about the entire faction: "Dwarfen Mountain Holds take to the field of battle once more". On the accompanying picture they show the Anvil of Doom and a Chaos Lord and Hell Cannon; the former is already out and the latter are soon to be released. I could be reading too much into it, but it seems odd to say "Dwarfen Mountain Holds taking to the field", show an iconic mini for the faction (that's already released), but they're referring to the second wave of stuff. Edited August 29 by Sathrut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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