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You could definitely just re-badge Leitpold or the guy on Demigryph as new characters of the era, its not like most people even really acknowledged their existence the first time around and they are legit stunning minis unlike some of the dross they have brought back for OW, perhaps as MTO? 

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3 hours ago, FFJump said:

Yes, the rumors were the FW Fimir Warriors and Noble were returning in the Beasts of Chaos Arcane Journal and were featured in a "Call of the Wild" type Army of Infamy along with the Preyton and Skin Wolves. The second AoI was indeed stated to be a minotaur focused one.

No more new details, but if it helps, the same source for the Fimir rumors has now been correct about the release order, the WoC journal having a Marauder and calvary focused list and new Marauder types, and also that no Chaos Mammoth was returning. So, solid track record so far. I don't doubt the Fimir rumor at all considering all the FW stuff being brought back and how fun the armies of infamy have been in terms of providing variety outside the standard army list. I imagine they'll probably be mercs in that Beasts AoI if not just a special unit or something.

Thanks so much for this — that does sound reassuring!

Now for the least likely part… There were several unreleased Fimir FW sculpts from the 2000s — a Meargh, a Dirach and so forth. I would be over the moon if they had finished these off for release finally, ala that Bretonnian Lord who popped back up out of nowhere after 20-odd years.

I appreciate this is a long stretch… 

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50 minutes ago, Noserenda said:

Also, the High Elves being delayed does strongly imply they are getting a decent few releases, a barebones launch wouldnt be vulnerable to delays as much, well, unless they broke a key mould or something.

Based on the post from the other day, it was just a new hero, but considering it was one of the best sellers, it will be pretty packed in terms of old minis.

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16 minutes ago, The Brotherhood of Necros said:

Thanks so much for this — that does sound reassuring!

Now for the least likely part… There were several unreleased Fimir FW sculpts from the 2000s — a Meargh, a Dirach and so forth. I would be over the moon if they had finished these off for release finally, ala that Bretonnian Lord who popped back up out of nowhere after 20-odd years.

I appreciate this is a long stretch… 

If the sculpts are done. I think there is a big chance that it will be released. It's easy money for them.

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47 minutes ago, The Brotherhood of Necros said:

Thanks so much for this — that does sound reassuring!

Now for the least likely part… There were several unreleased Fimir FW sculpts from the 2000s — a Meargh, a Dirach and so forth. I would be over the moon if they had finished these off for release finally, ala that Bretonnian Lord who popped back up out of nowhere after 20-odd years.

I appreciate this is a long stretch… 

I'm hoping for that too. The Balefiend especially seemed to be pretty much done and had rules both in Storm of Magic for 8th AND AoS 1st edition (with points). And that model is the version of the balefiend used in Total War Warhammer for Norsca. So it seemed like for all intents and purposes it was meant to be released and just wasn't. 

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18 hours ago, Noserenda said:

Also, the High Elves being delayed does strongly imply they are getting a decent few releases, a barebones launch wouldnt be vulnerable to delays as much, well, unless they broke a key mould or something.

Praying that it's going to be New spearmen and Silver Helms. 

Also would be nice to get an Eagle kit too. 

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There's no delay, it's just a jab at youtubers who know nothing and were sure high elves were going first.

And I'm pretty sure there will be no new sculpts for standard troops. It will be the old miniatures we know, just like the others.

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1 hour ago, Eldarion79 said:

That's from WarCo
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Yeah, that's why I call it a jab (delayed by some delicious intrigue at court, it's clearly a joke).

In the video, they said Empire being after Chaos was the natural follow up.

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I mean... They say its a delay, the obvious thought would be... a delay? 

The various patterns pointed at Elves, and GW say Elves are delayed one slot, the obvious answer feels like they just got... Delayed? 

But i guess secret subtext is an option.

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5 hours ago, Noserenda said:

I mean... They say its a delay, the obvious thought would be... a delay? 

The various patterns pointed at Elves, and GW say Elves are delayed one slot, the obvious answer feels like they just got... Delayed? 

But i guess secret subtext is an option.

Its not secret subtext. Its very obviously a joke at the expense of youtube rumormongers. Its presented as a joke.

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9 hours ago, Noserenda said:

I mean... They say its a delay, the obvious thought would be... a delay? 

The various patterns pointed at Elves, and GW say Elves are delayed one slot, the obvious answer feels like they just got... Delayed? 

But i guess secret subtext is an option.

It probaly is a just a delay due to logistics. 

However there is some speculation, that GW is realigning its releases due to a series of flops, and to cover some of the losses has increased the pace of Old World releases since that has been a big sucsess. 
The flops being Skaventide, a couple of 40K releases like the Kroot and expansion books, and possibly a couple of other releases and hype around 10th not being that popular. 
I'm not sure I belive the speculation, but it does seem that Old World is getting a increased priority for releases. 

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A German online retailer seems to have mistakenly put the following text about Cathay on their Old World dwarves page:

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Entdecke die Mysterien von Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World

Tauche ein in die faszinierende Welt von Grand Cathay und entdecke Miniaturen, Armeebücher und Zubehör für epische Schlachten in Warhammer: The Old World

Willkommen in unserer Online-Shop-Kategorie, die sich ganz der faszinierenden und geheimnisvollen Welt von Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World widmet! Bei uns findest Du eine große Auswahl an Miniaturen, Armeebüchern und Zubehör, die Dir dabei helfen, die Kultur und Geschichte von Grand Cathay zu entdecken und Deine Fähigkeiten auf dem Schlachtfeld zu perfektionieren. Begib Dich auf eine Reise in das Reich des Drachenkaisers und werde zum Meisterstratege!

Cathay Miniaturen – Die stolzen Krieger des Drachenkaisers: Unsere Auswahl an Miniaturen für Cathay umfasst eine Vielzahl von einzigartigen und detailreichen Figuren, die die verschiedenen Einheiten und Helden des Reiches repräsentieren. Von den mächtigen Drachenmönchen bis hin zu den legendären Terrakotta-Automaten – entdecke die beeindruckende Vielfalt der Krieger von Grand Cathay und stelle eine unbesiegbare Armee zusammen, um Deine Gegner auf dem Schlachtfeld zu bezwingen.

Armeebücher und Hintergrundmaterial – Entdecke die Geheimnisse von Cathay: Um in die Welt von Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World einzutauchen, benötigst Du die passenden Armeebücher und Hintergrundmaterialien, die Dir tiefe Einblicke in die Geschichte, Kultur und Spielmechaniken dieser faszinierenden Nation bieten. In unserer Kategorie findest Du eine Auswahl an Büchern, die Dir dabei helfen, Dein Wissen über Grand Cathay zu erweitern und Deine Strategien auf dem Schlachtfeld zu optimieren.

Zubehör und Gelände – Gestalte Dein persönliches Cathay-Schlachtfeld: Neben den Miniaturen und Büchern bieten wir auch eine große Auswahl an Zubehör und Gelände, die speziell für Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World entwickelt wurden. Entdecke beeindruckende Bauten, Tempel und Landschaftselemente, die Dir helfen, ein authentisches und atmosphärisches Schlachtfeld zu gestalten, auf dem Du Deine epischen Gefechte austragen kannst.

Fazit: Unsere Online-Shop-Kategorie zum Thema Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World bietet alles, was Du benötigst, um in die geheimnisvolle Welt von Grand Cathay einzutauchen und packende Schlachten mit Deinen Freunden zu führen. Entdecke die Vielfalt der Miniaturen, Armeebücher und Zubehör, die wir Dir anbieten, und lasse Deiner Kreativität und Strategie freien Lauf. Egal, ob Du ein Anfänger oder ein erfahrener Spieler bist – bei uns findest Du die richtigen Ressourcen, um Dein Warhammer: The Old World-Erlebnis zu optimieren und Dich zum Meisterstratege in Cathay zu entwickeln.

Unsere Online-Shop-Kategorie unterstützt Dich bei jedem Schritt auf Deinem Weg durch das Warhammer: The Old World-Universum und das Reich von Cathay. Von den ersten Schritten beim Sammeln einer Cathay-Armee bis hin zur Perfektionierung Deiner Strategie mithilfe von Armeebüchern und Hintergrundmaterial – wir sind Dein Begleiter in der faszinierenden Welt der epischen Schlachten und mystischen Kulturen.

Lerne die Hintergrundgeschichte und die vielfältigen Einheiten des Cathay-Universums kennen und tauche tief in das komplexe und taktisch anspruchsvolle Spielgeschehen ein. Mit unseren Miniaturen, Büchern und Zubehör bist Du bestens gerüstet, um Deine Gegner in spannenden und herausfordernden Partien zu besiegen.

Egal, ob Du alleine oder mit Freunden spielst, ob Du in Turnieren antrittst oder einfach nur das Universum von Warhammer: The Old World und Cathay erkunden möchtest – unsere Online-Shop-Kategorie bietet Dir die passenden Ressourcen, um Dein Spielerlebnis zu bereichern und Dein Können auf dem Schlachtfeld zu steigern.

Stelle Dich den Herausforderungen des Reiches von Cathay und führe Deine Armeen zum Sieg in den unerbittlichen Schlachten von Warhammer: The Old World. Bei uns findest Du alles, was Du benötigst, um Deine Fähigkeiten zu entwickeln und Deine Gegner in packenden Gefechten zu bezwingen. Entdecke die Welt von Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World und werde zum Meisterstratege!

 

https://www.kutami.de/zwerge_s2

Translation:

"Immerse yourself in the fascinating world of Grand Cathay and discover miniatures, army books and accessories for epic battles in Warhammer: The Old World

Welcome to our online store category dedicated to the fascinating and mysterious world of Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World! Here you'll find a wide selection of miniatures, army books and accessories to help you discover the culture and history of Grand Cathay and hone your skills on the battlefield. Embark on a journey into the realm of the Dragon Emperor and become a master strategist!

Cathay Miniatures - The proud warriors of the Dragon Emperor: Our selection of miniatures for Cathay includes a variety of unique and highly detailed figures representing the various units and heroes of the realm. From the mighty Dragon Monks to the legendary terracotta automatons, discover the impressive variety of warriors of Grand Cathay and assemble an invincible army to defeat your opponents on the battlefield.

Army books and background material - Discover the secrets of Cathay: To immerse yourself in the world of Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World, you'll need the right army books and background material to give you a deep insight into the history, culture and game mechanics of this fascinating nation. In our category you will find a selection of books that will help you expand your knowledge of Grand Cathay and optimize your strategies on the battlefield.

Accessories and terrain - Create your own Cathay battlefield: In addition to miniatures and books, we also offer a wide range of accessories and terrain designed specifically for Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World. Discover impressive buildings, temples and landscape elements to help you create an authentic and atmospheric battlefield on which to fight your epic battles.

Conclusion: Our online store category for Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World offers everything you need to immerse yourself in the mysterious world of Grand Cathay and fight thrilling battles with your friends. Discover the variety of miniatures, army books and accessories we offer and let your creativity and strategy run wild. Whether you're a beginner or an experienced player, you'll find the right resources to optimize your Warhammer: The Old World experience and become a master strategist in Cathay.

Our online store category will support you every step of the way as you explore the Warhammer: The Old World universe and the realm of Cathay. From the first steps of gathering a Cathay army to perfecting your strategy with the help of army books and background material - we are your companion in the fascinating world of epic battles and mystical lore."

 

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The text appears to be their own, self-written blind copy. They probably did not get it directly from GW. But the fact that they wrote a Cathay ad text that talks about concrete units (dragon monks and terracotta automata) at all is interesting.

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19 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

A German online retailer seems to have mistakenly put the following text about Cathay on their Old World dwarves page:

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Entdecke die Mysterien von Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World

Tauche ein in die faszinierende Welt von Grand Cathay und entdecke Miniaturen, Armeebücher und Zubehör für epische Schlachten in Warhammer: The Old World

Willkommen in unserer Online-Shop-Kategorie, die sich ganz der faszinierenden und geheimnisvollen Welt von Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World widmet! Bei uns findest Du eine große Auswahl an Miniaturen, Armeebüchern und Zubehör, die Dir dabei helfen, die Kultur und Geschichte von Grand Cathay zu entdecken und Deine Fähigkeiten auf dem Schlachtfeld zu perfektionieren. Begib Dich auf eine Reise in das Reich des Drachenkaisers und werde zum Meisterstratege!

Cathay Miniaturen – Die stolzen Krieger des Drachenkaisers: Unsere Auswahl an Miniaturen für Cathay umfasst eine Vielzahl von einzigartigen und detailreichen Figuren, die die verschiedenen Einheiten und Helden des Reiches repräsentieren. Von den mächtigen Drachenmönchen bis hin zu den legendären Terrakotta-Automaten – entdecke die beeindruckende Vielfalt der Krieger von Grand Cathay und stelle eine unbesiegbare Armee zusammen, um Deine Gegner auf dem Schlachtfeld zu bezwingen.

Armeebücher und Hintergrundmaterial – Entdecke die Geheimnisse von Cathay: Um in die Welt von Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World einzutauchen, benötigst Du die passenden Armeebücher und Hintergrundmaterialien, die Dir tiefe Einblicke in die Geschichte, Kultur und Spielmechaniken dieser faszinierenden Nation bieten. In unserer Kategorie findest Du eine Auswahl an Büchern, die Dir dabei helfen, Dein Wissen über Grand Cathay zu erweitern und Deine Strategien auf dem Schlachtfeld zu optimieren.

Zubehör und Gelände – Gestalte Dein persönliches Cathay-Schlachtfeld: Neben den Miniaturen und Büchern bieten wir auch eine große Auswahl an Zubehör und Gelände, die speziell für Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World entwickelt wurden. Entdecke beeindruckende Bauten, Tempel und Landschaftselemente, die Dir helfen, ein authentisches und atmosphärisches Schlachtfeld zu gestalten, auf dem Du Deine epischen Gefechte austragen kannst.

Fazit: Unsere Online-Shop-Kategorie zum Thema Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World bietet alles, was Du benötigst, um in die geheimnisvolle Welt von Grand Cathay einzutauchen und packende Schlachten mit Deinen Freunden zu führen. Entdecke die Vielfalt der Miniaturen, Armeebücher und Zubehör, die wir Dir anbieten, und lasse Deiner Kreativität und Strategie freien Lauf. Egal, ob Du ein Anfänger oder ein erfahrener Spieler bist – bei uns findest Du die richtigen Ressourcen, um Dein Warhammer: The Old World-Erlebnis zu optimieren und Dich zum Meisterstratege in Cathay zu entwickeln.

Unsere Online-Shop-Kategorie unterstützt Dich bei jedem Schritt auf Deinem Weg durch das Warhammer: The Old World-Universum und das Reich von Cathay. Von den ersten Schritten beim Sammeln einer Cathay-Armee bis hin zur Perfektionierung Deiner Strategie mithilfe von Armeebüchern und Hintergrundmaterial – wir sind Dein Begleiter in der faszinierenden Welt der epischen Schlachten und mystischen Kulturen.

Lerne die Hintergrundgeschichte und die vielfältigen Einheiten des Cathay-Universums kennen und tauche tief in das komplexe und taktisch anspruchsvolle Spielgeschehen ein. Mit unseren Miniaturen, Büchern und Zubehör bist Du bestens gerüstet, um Deine Gegner in spannenden und herausfordernden Partien zu besiegen.

Egal, ob Du alleine oder mit Freunden spielst, ob Du in Turnieren antrittst oder einfach nur das Universum von Warhammer: The Old World und Cathay erkunden möchtest – unsere Online-Shop-Kategorie bietet Dir die passenden Ressourcen, um Dein Spielerlebnis zu bereichern und Dein Können auf dem Schlachtfeld zu steigern.

Stelle Dich den Herausforderungen des Reiches von Cathay und führe Deine Armeen zum Sieg in den unerbittlichen Schlachten von Warhammer: The Old World. Bei uns findest Du alles, was Du benötigst, um Deine Fähigkeiten zu entwickeln und Deine Gegner in packenden Gefechten zu bezwingen. Entdecke die Welt von Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World und werde zum Meisterstratege!

 

https://www.kutami.de/zwerge_s2

Translation:

"Immerse yourself in the fascinating world of Grand Cathay and discover miniatures, army books and accessories for epic battles in Warhammer: The Old World

Welcome to our online store category dedicated to the fascinating and mysterious world of Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World! Here you'll find a wide selection of miniatures, army books and accessories to help you discover the culture and history of Grand Cathay and hone your skills on the battlefield. Embark on a journey into the realm of the Dragon Emperor and become a master strategist!

Cathay Miniatures - The proud warriors of the Dragon Emperor: Our selection of miniatures for Cathay includes a variety of unique and highly detailed figures representing the various units and heroes of the realm. From the mighty Dragon Monks to the legendary terracotta automatons, discover the impressive variety of warriors of Grand Cathay and assemble an invincible army to defeat your opponents on the battlefield.

Army books and background material - Discover the secrets of Cathay: To immerse yourself in the world of Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World, you'll need the right army books and background material to give you a deep insight into the history, culture and game mechanics of this fascinating nation. In our category you will find a selection of books that will help you expand your knowledge of Grand Cathay and optimize your strategies on the battlefield.

Accessories and terrain - Create your own Cathay battlefield: In addition to miniatures and books, we also offer a wide range of accessories and terrain designed specifically for Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World. Discover impressive buildings, temples and landscape elements to help you create an authentic and atmospheric battlefield on which to fight your epic battles.

Conclusion: Our online store category for Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World offers everything you need to immerse yourself in the mysterious world of Grand Cathay and fight thrilling battles with your friends. Discover the variety of miniatures, army books and accessories we offer and let your creativity and strategy run wild. Whether you're a beginner or an experienced player, you'll find the right resources to optimize your Warhammer: The Old World experience and become a master strategist in Cathay.

Our online store category will support you every step of the way as you explore the Warhammer: The Old World universe and the realm of Cathay. From the first steps of gathering a Cathay army to perfecting your strategy with the help of army books and background material - we are your companion in the fascinating world of epic battles and mystical lore."

 

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The text appears to be their own, self-written blind copy. They probably did not get it directly from GW. But the fact that they wrote a Cathay ad text that talks about concrete units (dragon monks and terracotta automata) at all is interesting.

Wow. But it is so weird. GW still has to release 4 factions that will take them easily like a year. Why would they have a Cathay text so early?

Would a retailer know about a release such a big time in advance?

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2 minutes ago, Ejecutor said:

Wow. But it is so weird. GW still has to release 4 factions that will take them easily like a year. Why would they have a Cathay text so early?

Would a retailer know about a release such a big time in advance?

It is hard to know. I believe @Whitefang said at some point that Cathay were not cancelled, but just shelved for the time being. If Whitefang has this info, others might have it too. I don't think it is impossible that a few concrete details about future Old World plans were communicated to some retailers at some point.

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5 minutes ago, BarakUrbaz said:

Maybe its just due to the translation, but that german store text sounds AI-generated to me. Especially when it says "Conclusion:" like the algorithim accidentally thought it was writing an essay or something. 

The translation is AI-based. I thought it sounded fairly natural in German, but I can also say that comparing it to the text on other faction sites on this store makes it easy to tell that it's just kind of their own "landing page" text where they swap out a few phrases for different factions.

I don't think the content of this store text is the most interesting thing, however, I think it is more interesting that someone bothered to write it at all.

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37 minutes ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:

The translation is AI-based. I thought it sounded fairly natural in German, but I can also say that comparing it to the text on other faction sites on this store makes it easy to tell that it's just kind of their own "landing page" text where they swap out a few phrases for different factions.

I don't think the content of this store text is the most interesting thing, however, I think it is more interesting that someone bothered to write it at all.

What about them releasing a bunch of resin miniatures that they bought the license and creating their own scenery? Imo it is the most likely scenario, but hopefully it is full GW material. They even mentioned multiple terrain options.

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1 hour ago, Ejecutor said:

What about them releasing a bunch of resin miniatures that they bought the license and creating their own scenery? Imo it is the most likely scenario, but hopefully it is full GW material. They even mentioned multiple terrain options.

The store has non-Old World stuff on the landing page for other factions (AoS stuff for example). But as far as I can tell, they don't have 3rd party stuff on there, though (the highest-level category under which ToW resides is "Games Workshop", so that might be dangerous). They don't seem in the business of selling 3rd party stuff for homebrew factions, for what it's worth.

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Otherwise, you just have to choose "english" at the top right of the site to have the english version.

https://www.kutami.de/warhammer-dwarves_s2
 

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Discover the Mysteries of Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World

Immerse yourself in the fascinating world of Grand Cathay and discover miniatures, army books, and accessories for epic battles in Warhammer: The Old World.

Welcome to our online shop category dedicated to the captivating and mysterious world of Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World! Here, you will find a wide selection of miniatures, army books, and accessories that will help you explore the culture and history of Grand Cathay and perfect your skills on the battlefield. Embark on a journey to the realm of the Dragon Emperor and become a master strategist!

Cathay Miniatures – The Proud Warriors of the Dragon Emperor: Our selection of miniatures for Cathay includes a variety of unique and detailed figures representing the different units and heroes of the empire. From the mighty Dragon Monks to the legendary Terracotta Automata, discover the impressive diversity of the warriors of Grand Cathay and assemble an unbeatable army to defeat your opponents on the battlefield.

Army Books and Background Material – Discover the Secrets of Cathay: To immerse yourself in the world of Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World, you need the appropriate army books and background materials that provide you with deep insights into the history, culture, and game mechanics of this fascinating nation. In our category, you will find a selection of books that will help you expand your knowledge of Grand Cathay and optimize your strategies on the battlefield.

Accessories and Terrain – Create Your Own Personal Cathay Battlefield: In addition to miniatures and books, we also offer a wide selection of accessories and terrain specifically designed for Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World. Discover impressive buildings, temples, and landscape elements that will help you create an authentic and atmospheric battlefield where you can engage in your epic battles.

Conclusion: Our online shop category on the topic of Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World offers everything you need to immerse yourself in the mysterious world of Grand Cathay and lead exciting battles with your friends. Discover the diversity of the miniatures, army books, and accessories we offer and unleash your creativity and strategy. Whether you're a beginner or an experienced player, you'll find the right resources with us to optimize your Warhammer: The Old World experience and become a master strategist in Cathay.

Our online shop category supports you at every step of your journey through the Warhammer: The Old World universe and the realm of Cathay. From the first steps in collecting a Cathay army to perfecting your strategy with army books and background material, we are your companion in the fascinating world of epic battles and mystical cultures.

Get to know the backstory and diverse units of the Cathay universe and dive deep into the complex and tactically demanding gameplay. With our miniatures, books, and accessories, you are well-equipped to defeat your opponents in exciting and challenging games.

Whether you play alone or with friends, participate in tournaments or simply want to explore the universe of Warhammer: The Old World and Cathay, our online shop category provides you with the appropriate resources to enrich your gaming experience and enhance your skills on the battlefield.

Face the challenges of the realm of Cathay and lead your armies to victory in the unforgiving battles of Warhammer: The Old World. With us, you will find everything you need to develop your skills and defeat your opponents in thrilling battles. Discover the world of Cathay in Warhammer: The Old World and become a master strategist!

I'd say it's just a AI generated text, and they put "Cathay" instead of "dwarves" in the commands. ;)

There's not much to say about it, TBH.

Thanks for the link anyway, I saw they have a copy of House of Faith book in stock. It's just the one I missed for my collection.

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8 hours ago, JackStreicher said:

Mhm, that‘d be a surprise.

I do know that Element and Wayland have yet to come close to selling through their original allocations of Skaventide. The biggest independent retailer in Spain only sold 10% of their stock of it too. Not to mention last time I looked 2 weeks ago Skaventide still hadn't sold out on GW's store; they were still offering the ultra limited edition with the coins too which only had a stock of something like 24,000.

ofc caveats are that we don't know what GW's internal benchmarks consider to be successful and that the launch box doing poorly doesn't necessarily mean the rest of the range/game is doing bad.

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People talking about AoS new edition being a flop are honestly having wet dreams.

Skaventide boxes still being available has more to do with GW making too many boxes.

As for Old World being "way more popular", it's always easy to want it to be true, especially when you hold a grudge against AoS for whatever reason.

They're both miniature wargames, it takes time for new players to have their armies ready to play. That's something that naturally takes time. I don't think people that buy everything to align a 2000 points army in one go are that many. And if they're not interested by skavens or Stormcast miniatures, Skaventide launch box has not so much value to them.

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